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You can form the Kingdom of Novgorod before you even unpause, and if you have the dlc, giving you a royal court right out of the gate for extra bonuses.
Also if having the dlc, again before you even unpause, you can also hybridize Norse with Russian culture which lets you instanty become your culture head, while also picking up 2 free innovations, (mottes and ledgers) just be sure to keep Norse heritage.
Your surrounded by small nobodies giving you infinite room to expand.
Lastly , its also easier to reform Asatru if thats your goal as your right near the Baltic coast giving you easy access to the 2 Scandinavian holy sites while you continue to expand south towards Kyiv which is the 3rd holy site and also a good goal anyways as holding Kyiv allows you to enact the Found the Capital of the Rus' decision a prestige level earlier(having Kyiv requires only Illustrious instead of exalted) giving your chosen capital insane bonuses.
I'm debating on staying Asatru or converting to Slovianskan. I notice I have a decision for forging the Jomsvikings. Is that worth staying Asatru for?
You will lose access to them if you reform Asatru, but can then just found another new order after that.
Anyone happen to know if North Germanic heritage has access to re-add Malleable Invaders if I swap it for Mendicant Mystics when I hybridize with Russian? I intend to keep the heritage and swap language for my required pillar.
Sorry about the hybridize thing, i did it in an mp game with a friend of mine and im thinking after i created Novgorod and accessed my RC, i must have gotten an event that i forgot about while holding court which increased my acceptance of russian and allowed me to hybridize right away
No worries, it won't be that difficult to raise the acceptance since there's a lot of Russian counties around.
All PD would need to do to "fix" it would be to mark Dyre as a bastard founder already, and make his house a new non-cadet house, since that's how the bastard founding works in normal gameplay.
As another realm, murder is viable, as wasy case. As Dyre himself, it'd be easy enough to either disinherit or just assign the starting kid as the realm preist so he doesn't inherit anything.
Helgi has the quick trait and average at best personality traits and he's slavic religion rather then asatru which is another point against him as Asatru is just better as a religion.
Still Helgi is far from the worst you could do so keeping him as heir isn't bad. And if he dies or if your wife and you get a much better son (which is very likely since she has the intelligent trait and Rurik has quick) then you can dishinherit him if your next in line looks much better
Thankfully, Helgi was in such poor health, in part due to his crazy stress, by the time I transitioned to him that he only lasted 8 months or so as ruler, so I moved on to Rurik's grandson.
If you become both Russian and Slavic, you can simply vassalize all the neighboring rulers through diplomacy. This is much much faster, doesn't cost anything, and since they are tribal doesn't come with the usual starter contracts of feudal vassalization.
The largers ones who don't accept vassalage can be taken by subjugation and conquest CB either way.
Once you approach the Kiev area, it is time to become Orthodox. Then you also get righteous Holy War as CB, so you get the best land for yourself.
Make Kiev your capital and start expanding like crazy.
I stayed Asatru, made Novgorod my capital (I wanted my personal domain to remain by the sea), grabbed White 'Rus and a few counties north and east, and haven't started a war of my own since. I'm either able to vassalize my Russian neighbors (I hybridized Norse with Russian and maintain several Russian counties with Russian vassals so my acceptance remains at 80% or more), vassalize them through marriages or guardianships I've arranged so that the heirs are Norse/Asatru, or my vassals expand borders for me. I currently own half of Ruthenia and Vladimir, and am about to vassalize the rest, which will allow me to form the empire. I've remained allies with Dyre's heirs in Kyiv since the beginning of the game and have helped them expand until their soon to be vassalization.
In the end, there are many ways to achieve things. I like manipulating other realms, either socially or through clever marriages, guardianships, or schemes, rather than just brute forcing war and vassalizations. I'm personally never in a hurry to expand, and fairly early in this playthrough hit a good sized army where my neighbors don't declare war on me, largely thanks to forming a holy order and getting Jomsvikings gifted to me from them (they inherit on succession, instead of disbanding). So I maintaining my kingdom while watching and guiding those around me.
Regarding going Orthodox, no thanks. I've done enough Christian playthroughs and they're stale for me at this point. My goal was to do a pagan viking playthrough so I'm sticking to that. Besides, Orthodoxy is getting pummeled into the ground by the "heathens" around them (Slovianska, Asatru, Vidilist, Taltosism, Tengri, and some Kuzarism)
Much better starting doctrines and tenets between patron gods, warmonger and grand blot. You can generate prestige like crazy.
Patron god gives you access to a free buff to your stats which really helps early realm expansion and is a good tenet all the way through. Devotee of Thor gives you +2 stewardship and +3 prowess which is great for building tall if you have stewardship focus ruler and still good if you don't
Once you are ready to feudalize, pick the two doctrines you want to replace warmonger and grand blot because at that point you won't need it and keep patron gods for the stat boosts.
Asatru is pluralist by default meaning you always get a bonus to opinion from rulers of different religions and if you add any syncretism doctrine it basically gets around any issues of having relations with rulers of the syncretism you chose.
Once you reformed religion you get the Great Holy war tenet anyway at you have a much better starting religion to play around with that christianity.