Infirm...how many years do i have ?

[danceswithhorses]

Ok, so my 61yo King has just got the 'infirm' trait.
What i'm wondering is...how long has he got to live ?
ie can you have infirm for 5 years ??
I ask because my male heir is only 12yo, and ruling as a child is a pain (from experience)
My heir has a sister over 16, with equally good stats who could easily rule if i disinherit him.

[pauloandrade224]

Dead within like a year maybe 2

Hows his health status btw?

[shiggies713]

you can have infirm longer than 5 years possibly, not likely but it is possible. Most important thing is the health bar. If it says poor he is about to die within a couple years probably, though I have seen characters live 20+ years on poor health.

[danceswithhorses]

He is poor health...gout ridden (-), infirm (-), reduced disease symptoms (+), stubborn (+), iron constitution (+)

[pauloandrade224]

Originally posted by danceswithhorses:

He is poor health...gout ridden (-), infirm (-), reduced disease symptoms (+), stubborn (+), iron constitution (+)

Dead in a year then at best

[RawCode]

death roll is "random" you can die next month or live for decade, because it's random.

[danceswithhorses]

Cheers for the help...much appreciated
I'm going to go with the now 13yo boy as i can't afford 2 disinheritances (not enough renown, and 1st daughter was as dumb as a potato)

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by danceswithhorses:

Ok, so my 61yo King has just got the 'infirm' trait.
What i'm wondering is...how long has he got to live ?
ie can you have infirm for 5 years ??
I ask because my male heir is only 12yo, and ruling as a child is a pain (from experience)
My heir has a sister over 16, with equally good stats who could easily rule if i disinherit him.

I've always ended up with a better ruler when my heir is a kid, in part due to the meet peers decision and the stat boosting events from that. Though that not make much of a difference if they're already 12
You'd only get 1, maybe 2, of those depending when you die.

It also might help to check both of their existing relationships. If the younger one has a bunch of existing vassals as friends, then it's not as big of an issue since those vassals won't create/join factions

[BaCaz]

This is how health works:
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Attributes

[shiggies713]

I"ll tell you what the learning tree is incredibly powerful. I was really worried about my next heir being crappy but I gave him some land so he could build up his tree. He had astute intellectual training, was pretty crappy in most things but learning. He had the entire scholar tree done when i got him, had the "learn on the job" perk and boom with good advisors he was instantly over 10 in every category, 33 in learning. You could add whole of body tree and live a very long time with super high skills.

[BaCaz]

Originally posted by shiggies713:

I"ll tell you what the learning tree is incredibly powerful. I was really worried about my next heir being crappy but I gave him some land so he could build up his tree. He had astute intellectual training, was pretty crappy in most things but learning. He had the entire scholar tree done when i got him, had the "learn on the job" perk and boom with good advisors he was instantly over 10 in every category, 33 in learning. You could add whole of body tree and live a very long time with super high skills.

Just FYI, both claiment and landed characters get lifestyle exp, so no need to land your heir unless you have other reasons. :)

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by shiggies713:

I"ll tell you what the learning tree is incredibly powerful. I was really worried about my next heir being crappy but I gave him some land so he could build up his tree. He had astute intellectual training, was pretty crappy in most things but learning. He had the entire scholar tree done when i got him, had the "learn on the job" perk and boom with good advisors he was instantly over 10 in every category, 33 in learning. You could add whole of body tree and live a very long time with super high skills.

Yeah, learning is pretty good. Especially for mentoring heirs with the pedagogy if you have intelligent or genius.

[jerrypocalypse]

Originally posted by BaCaz:

Originally posted by shiggies713:

I"ll tell you what the learning tree is incredibly powerful. I was really worried about my next heir being crappy but I gave him some land so he could build up his tree. He had astute intellectual training, was pretty crappy in most things but learning. He had the entire scholar tree done when i got him, had the "learn on the job" perk and boom with good advisors he was instantly over 10 in every category, 33 in learning. You could add whole of body tree and live a very long time with super high skills.

Just FYI, both claiment and landed characters get lifestyle exp, so no need to land your heir unless you have other reasons. :)

Do you happen to know if heirs get the bonus lifestyle XP from being in your council?

For example, placing your heir that has a martial education as your marshal

[N*rd]

Originally posted by danceswithhorses:

Cheers for the help...much appreciated
I'm going to go with the now 13yo boy as i can't afford 2 disinheritances (not enough renown, and 1st daughter was as dumb as a potato)

imprison the childs and kill them off ... you will die anyways

This is the way

[snuggleform]

Since you have iron constitution he may surprise you and live until 65, but wouldn't count on it. Iron constitution cancels out a massive portion of diseases like infirm and gout ridden. As long as his health meter says "poor" when you hover over it, you should be prepared for death at any time.

[NewbieOne]

The 'Dying' skull means you're literally dying, but the Infirm trait alone is not an indication of approaching death (although you shouldn't expect to live to 90 if you get it at 50).