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Hex:Feet May 23, 2021 @ 8:31am
Convert other rulers to my faith
So I just founded my first new faith and of course nobody else now has my religion. So how do I now spread my religion (without conqering)
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You don't. Patiently wait to throw your money away on the inevitable religion expansion, like all the whales are doing.

If you want to try it anyways, you could arrange marriages to get a neighbor's child into your court, wait until they produce a child, then murder everyone standing in the line of succession, same as you would get a same-dynasty neighboring ruler without conquest (or realm split).

If you want to do the 5000 IQ thing and mod it in yourself, a character interaction using the set_character_faith_with_conversion effect would do the trick. To prevent it from being overpowered, you might want to consider adding in a "the target refused" outcome.

To add further flavor/utility, you could have multiple means of attempting to convert neighbors, like send out a priestly delegation preaching genuine scripture OR a delegation bearing arms that has a fascination with the brimstone parts of scripture OR a delegation that covertly slips the target a bag of gold OR you could personally send a letter extolling the virtues of your cult of personality OR you could etc.
The Former May 23, 2021 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:
You don't. Patiently wait to throw your money away on the inevitable religion expansion, like all the whales are doing.

Pretty sure this was never introduced for CK2, don't see why they'd introduce it now.
BrowneHawk May 23, 2021 @ 11:31am 
Your best bet was getting properly set up prior to forming your own religion. This is why I tend to fill my best titles out with family members. Dynasty members who like you tend to always convert with you. If they own land they will start converting all those under them.

If done correct you can have your whole empire convert with you. Sounds like you have some wars to get into.
Razorblade May 23, 2021 @ 11:37am 
Various events can cause rulers to convert to a heresy, which I believe is biased towards heresies that are present close to them. Otherwise, converting claimants to your religion and then murdering their way onto foreign thrones is about your only other method. Realistically, the best method is Holy Wars, however. Catholicism didn't become mainstream in medieval Europe by being nice about it, after all.
steventirey May 23, 2021 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:
Originally posted by Half-lidded Bruiser:
You don't. Patiently wait to throw your money away on the inevitable religion expansion, like all the whales are doing.

Pretty sure this was never introduced for CK2, don't see why they'd introduce it now.

In CK2, you could send your court priest outside your realm in an attempt to convert people or counties to your religion. (Though that wasn't a DLC thing, it was base game.) The secret cult stuff could help spread it in your realm as well. The Sons of Abraham DLC seems to have something with courtiers attempting conversion.

It might be introduced because, despite being given the ability to make our own new religions, we aren't given a method to actually spread it to anyone outside out realm. (Except with violence.)
Last edited by steventirey; May 23, 2021 @ 11:47am
ste May 23, 2021 @ 11:48am 
You can catch prisioners and release them on conversion, and you can marry family members to them and use your hook to convert them. Other than that not really anything you can do
The Former May 23, 2021 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by steventirey:
Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

Pretty sure this was never introduced for CK2, don't see why they'd introduce it now.

In CK2, you could send your court priest outside your realm in an attempt to convert people or counties to your religion. (Though that wasn't a DLC thing, it was base game.) The secret cult stuff could help spread it in your realm as well. The Sons of Abraham DLC seems to have something with courtiers attempting conversion.

It might be introduced because, despite being given the ability to make our own new religions, we aren't given a method to actually spread it to anyone outside out realm. (Except with violence.)

People? Huh, I forgot about that part. I do remember the county thing, but you can do that now, where it matters. It doesn't make sense to be able to convert another lord's county. From a roleplaying perspective, he'd probably just have your "heathen" court priest killed. From a gameplay perspective, it just leads to an endless cycle in which two court priests are playing tennis with a given county's faith.
Zsrai May 23, 2021 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by steventirey:
Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

Pretty sure this was never introduced for CK2, don't see why they'd introduce it now.

In CK2, you could send your court priest outside your realm in an attempt to convert people or counties to your religion. (Though that wasn't a DLC thing, it was base game.) The secret cult stuff could help spread it in your realm as well. The Sons of Abraham DLC seems to have something with courtiers attempting conversion.

It might be introduced because, despite being given the ability to make our own new religions, we aren't given a method to actually spread it to anyone outside out realm. (Except with violence.)

In CK2 you could only do that as an established religion to unreformed pagans, and there were some pretty hard brakes on it early on. In CK3 conversion of pagans still happens, but not by sending your court priest.

SoA events weren't really controlled, it was just the ability to convert to the religion of your friends/courtiers IIRC. Secret Cults were a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abomination from M&M, but I guess the point stands, of a sort. The AI never really used it to spread religion so much as to hold onto their old one, I found.

You can already spread your heresy if the events fire for another ruler and the heresy chosen is the one you made. That sounds like the best option, even if it's complete RNG. Either that or just Holy War the ♥♥♥♥ out of people (but not too much or you tank Fervor) and release them. Try inviting claimants, converting them, and then pressing their claims as well.
garthurbrown May 23, 2021 @ 1:58pm 
You can always switch characters and convert local rulers if you don't mind being cheaty.
vortex_13 May 24, 2021 @ 2:50pm 
Originally posted by steventirey:
Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

Pretty sure this was never introduced for CK2, don't see why they'd introduce it now.

In CK2, you could send your court priest outside your realm in an attempt to convert people or counties to your religion. (Though that wasn't a DLC thing, it was base game.) The secret cult stuff could help spread it in your realm as well. The Sons of Abraham DLC seems to have something with courtiers attempting conversion.

It might be introduced because, despite being given the ability to make our own new religions, we aren't given a method to actually spread it to anyone outside out realm. (Except with violence.)
No. That was a feature added in later. It was in a free patch but wasn't in the game at launch.
garthurbrown May 24, 2021 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by vortex_13:
Originally posted by steventirey:

In CK2, you could send your court priest outside your realm in an attempt to convert people or counties to your religion. (Though that wasn't a DLC thing, it was base game.) The secret cult stuff could help spread it in your realm as well. The Sons of Abraham DLC seems to have something with courtiers attempting conversion.

It might be introduced because, despite being given the ability to make our own new religions, we aren't given a method to actually spread it to anyone outside out realm. (Except with violence.)
No. That was a feature added in later. It was in a free patch but wasn't in the game at launch.

I think that must have been from a mod. There was no way in CK2 to convert faiths outside your realm. It certainly wasn't from base game, and it wasn't from Monks and Mystics.

UNLESS you are talking about an EVENT where a neighboring pagan ruler asks for your help in converting their realm. Which is not something you can actively trigger.
Last edited by garthurbrown; May 24, 2021 @ 3:30pm
Zsrai May 24, 2021 @ 5:28pm 
Originally posted by garthurbrown:
Originally posted by vortex_13:
No. That was a feature added in later. It was in a free patch but wasn't in the game at launch.

I think that must have been from a mod. There was no way in CK2 to convert faiths outside your realm. It certainly wasn't from base game, and it wasn't from Monks and Mystics.

UNLESS you are talking about an EVENT where a neighboring pagan ruler asks for your help in converting their realm. Which is not something you can actively trigger.

You can send your Chaplain, through the job action, to a nearby unreformed pagan realm and try and convert them to your religion. There are a lot of modifiers, and it's mostly just gonna get your priests imprisoned and/or killed until about 1100 IIRC, but it's been there since ToG.
Vepyr May 25, 2021 @ 10:10am 
Intrigue focus. Abduct high level rulers. Force change religion on release. With any luck, they'll do the work for you.
The Former May 25, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by 76561198084585156:
Intrigue focus. Abduct high level rulers. Force change religion on release. With any luck, they'll do the work for you.

This man thinks like a Crusader Kings player.
Ezeklis May 25, 2021 @ 11:40am 
You can't demand conversion on imprisoned foreign rulers.
Best you can do is abducting children that are not heirs, force recruiting them to your court and marrying them to your dynasty. Then murdering their way to the crown.
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