Confused and Disappointed

[macsporan]

I bought this game but it is so complex that it was too bewildering and exhausting to even learn. I wish I hadn't bought it. It's an monster of a thing, as dull as the Middle Ages and almost as annoying.

[bromanskee]

do more research next time?

[Razorblade]

Do an hour of reading and you'll be a master: https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Crusader_Kings_III_Wiki

Also next time, if you want help, ask, and if you want to complain, post a Review. Discussion forums are for discussing, not whining into the void.

[gothicwigga]

an monster

[Dufflebags]

It's not really a game you play to win persae. Yes, there is playthroughs where people do objectively win by absolutely dominating or whatever their end goal is. But a lot of the game is just about the dynasty and story, and all the random ♥♥♥♥ that can happen. Similar to rimworld.

If I could define a sub genre of genres of games I would define Ck3 as a learn by failure type game.

But anyway, within 40 hours I was competent enough to enjoy playthroughs but still make mistakes and have lots to learn and have fun with. At 80 I'm starting to have very good games where I feel powerful, but I know I'm still missing a lot.

Point being don't worry if you lose or don't play perfect all the time, it can be forgiving. And the moments it seems dark it usually winds up not being that bad. Good luck, and if it isn't for you, eh, it is what it is. Check my game library. We all have that burden. I have a fortune of ♥♥♥♥ games lol.

[Arlen Tektolnes]

Back to clicking on heads then?

[Desert_Dweller]

Originally posted by macsporan:

I bought this game but it is so complex that it was too bewildering and exhausting to even learn. I wish I hadn't bought it. It's an monster of a thing, as dull as the Middle Ages and almost as annoying.

Try the tutorial
It really helped me

[Wolfen]

Goodbye.

[Lovecraft's Cat]

Do you really think the Middle Ages were dull and annoying? If so, I don't understand why you even picked CK3 in the first place...
As others have pointed out, there's an ingame tutorial and tons of good videos on YouTube which make the game really accessible if you're willing to learn a bit.

[Lady Dormouse]

Honestly, there is so much knowledge in the wiki and here in the Steam discussions that if you actually want to learn the game and become proficient you easily can.

Heck, install the cheat menu mod and play a non-Iron Man game.

Enable the debug console and cheat and weigh things in your favor.

Learn the game that way. Just enjoying a sandbox that you have SO much control over if you want to use the above.

In my personal opinion, it's a great way to learn the game.

Do that for your first or first few games. Once you start to learn how things flow and work, well if you want a real challenge, that's the time to give your first Iron Man game a go.

Honestly, I can't think of any 4X game that is something you can learn, let alone master, in a couple of hours.

[Dufflebags]

Originally posted by Lady Dormouse:

Honestly, there is so much knowledge in the wiki and here in the Steam discussions that if you actually want to learn the game and become proficient you easily can.

Heck, install the cheat menu mod and play a non-Iron Man game.

Enable the debug console and cheat and weigh things in your favor.

Learn the game that way. Just enjoying a sandbox that you have SO much control over if you want to use the above.

In my personal opinion, it's a great way to learn the game.

Do that for your first or first few games. Once you start to learn how things flow and work, well if you want a real challenge, that's the time to give your first Iron Man game a go.

Honestly, I can't think of any 4X game that is something you can learn, let alone master, in a couple of hours.

Honestly if you don't enjoy RNG or a little bit of failure and extreme storied events/rpg you really won't like CK3.

You do a lot to be good, but sometimes the RNG gods are going to troll you for entertainment value. And some people cannot handle losing or adversity at all. No judge, we all play games for our own reasons.

Sometimes I get frustrated too. But for the most part as my post suggestions I enjoy 'learn by failure' (I'm claiming this term if it gets popular homies, mark this) when the game is brand new and there's lots of fresh crazy events. I'm usually loling.

[Lady Dormouse]

Originally posted by Dufflebags:

Honestly if you don't enjoy RNG or a little bit of failure and extreme storied events/rpg you really won't like CK3.

You do a lot to be good, but sometimes the RNG gods are going to troll you for entertainment value. And some people cannot handle losing or adversity at all. No judge, we all play games for our own reasons.

Sometimes I get frustrated too. But for the most part as my post suggestions I enjoy 'learn by failure' (I'm claiming this term if it gets popular homies, mark this) when the game is brand new and there's lots of fresh crazy events. I'm usually loling.

Huh? What made you think I had any problem with it?

I have over 2000 hours on CK2.

So please don't paint me as some complaining newb.

[D34DLY]

There was a sale, and I bought HoI4 and CK3 at the same time. CK3 was easier to learn than HoI4. These type of games take a long time to get good at them. I tried CK2 long ago, and wasn't able to figure it out. The tutorial for CK3 helps.

One point not covered in the tutorial is the character finder. Press the "c" key to unlock this magical device.

[ShepherdOfCats]

Every time I see one of these posts that says CKIII is too hard, I just look over at Victoria II in my library list, and think back to a time when Paradox games had depth and challenge.

Y'all young'uns don't know what a strategy game is.

[Dufflebags]

Originally posted by Lady Dormouse:

Originally posted by Dufflebags:

Honestly if you don't enjoy RNG or a little bit of failure and extreme storied events/rpg you really won't like CK3.

You do a lot to be good, but sometimes the RNG gods are going to troll you for entertainment value. And some people cannot handle losing or adversity at all. No judge, we all play games for our own reasons.

Sometimes I get frustrated too. But for the most part as my post suggestions I enjoy 'learn by failure' (I'm claiming this term if it gets popular homies, mark this) when the game is brand new and there's lots of fresh crazy events. I'm usually loling.

Huh? What made you think I had any problem with it?

I have over 2000 hours on CK2.

So please don't paint me as some complaining newb.

I actually wasn't, it was more of an echo chamber to the OP about the style of gameplay. But I can see how that was poorly executed on my end lol

[Turian14]

Just play the tutorial. If you aren't in to it after 5 hours or so the game isn't for you.