Act of Tyranny to Imprison a Murderer (why?)

[D34DLY]

I'm curious why it would be an act of tyranny to imprison a known murderer?

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[Forblaze]

Despite the description of the trait, only kinslaying can actually be illegal. Religion defines how closely related someone has to be before it becomes illegal to kill them.

[mk11]

What percentage of nobles are scheming so and sos that would get away with murder if they could? Quite a lot. Would they be upset that you imprisoned someone just for being a murderer? Yes.

[BaCaz]

Most likely she was already punished for her crimes, that's why you can't imprison her (without tyranny).
Murder is illigal and the above statement saying that only kin-slaying is illigal is wrong. You can tell so many ways but if you wanna use kin-slayer as an example, try to actually make it legal and you'll see that it says;
"The murder of one's family is no different from any other murder, and shall be treated in the same way."

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by BaCaz:

Most likely she was already punished for her crimes, that's why you can't imprison her (without tyranny).
Murder is illigal and the above statement saying that only kin-slaying is illigal is wrong. You can tell so many ways but if you wanna use kin-slayer as an example, try to actually make it legal and you'll see that it says;
"The murder of one's family is no different from any other murder, and shall be treated in the same way."

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Court#Crime

Murder per se is not illegal.

Only the following acts related to murder are reasons for imprisonment and punishment

- Attempted To Murder Me
- Attempted To Murder Family Member
- Murdered Family Member
- Known Kinslayer (if criminal per religious doctrine)

[BaCaz]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Originally posted by BaCaz:

Most likely she was already punished for her crimes, that's why you can't imprison her (without tyranny).
Murder is illigal and the above statement saying that only kin-slaying is illigal is wrong. You can tell so many ways but if you wanna use kin-slayer as an example, try to actually make it legal and you'll see that it says;
"The murder of one's family is no different from any other murder, and shall be treated in the same way."

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Court#Crime

Murder per se is not illegal.

Only the following acts related to murder are reasons for imprisonment and punishment

- Attempted To Murder Me
- Attempted To Murder Family Member
- Murdered Family Member
- Known Kinslayer (if criminal per religious doctrine)

The description of murderer is "This character has illegally brought about someone's demise."

Maybe it's just implied, logically if attempting to murder someone is illigal so is actually doing it.

I usually always make kin-slayer legal and I've imprisoned lots of murderers.

Edit: If you're right, (which most often, you are) technically, it's still illigal but it's punished by the relevant dynasty and not the liege, which would also answer OP's question.

[D34DLY]

Originally posted by BaCaz:

Most likely she was already punished for her crimes, that's why you can't imprison her (without tyranny).

The murder happened 5 days ago, I was just notified of my Steward's death, and hit pause.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by BaCaz:

The description of murderer is "This character has illegally brought about someone's demise."

Maybe it's just implied, logically if attempting to murder someone is illigal so is actually doing it.

I usually always make kin-slayer legal and I've imprisoned lots of murderers.

Edit: If you're right, (which most often, you are) technically, it's still illigal but it's punished by the relevant dynasty and not the liege, which would also answer OP's question.

I assume this works the same like other crimes; as the top liege, you can arrest any courtier inside your realm for e.g. fornication.

So if anyone murdered a family member of some vassal, you could arrest that guy in their stead.

But just murdering some random lowborns without ties to anyone doesn't seem to give the arrest reason. Just the trait for being a murderer.