Empire of Scandinavia or North Sea Empire?

[PurpleMonkeyDishWasher]

I have enough to form Scandinavia, but I was wondering if you get extra bonuses for forming the North Sea Empire? I'm in control of parts of England but it's just gonna take a while with the 30 year wait. Is it worth it, or should you just become emperor when you have the chance?

[Elenjo [Ger]]

i did it today and i was "shocked",
you have Norway,Denmark and England under control as a tribal, and if you took the Decicion, youre instantly a Emperor and your land will be convertet to feudal.
you get a little bit of small boni too. but as i sayed, for free you get the feudal which normally took so much work

[PurpleMonkeyDishWasher]

Instant Feudal? Damn, well that is a good bonus. Thanks for the info!

[falkinfly]

I wouldn't form it. The instant feudal causes you to lose your tribal bonuses. My max levies went down from 28000 to 3000, even with a completed martial tree.

[Elenjo [Ger]]

Originally posted by falkinfly:

I wouldn't form it. The instant feudal causes you to lose your tribal bonuses. My max levies went down from 28000 to 3000, even with a completed martial tree.

for my part it went from 28000 to 17000 somehow

its a nice bonus but i need to say that the character i used to form it was good in intrigue, an i killed every big nation in the time where i waited these 30years , so they split up an the only rival after forming it was byzanz

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by falkinfly:

I wouldn't form it. The instant feudal causes you to lose your tribal bonuses. My max levies went down from 28000 to 3000, even with a completed martial tree.

Gotta wonder if you were way over your domain limit or something to only have 3k. You should probably have at least 3k levies from your domain alone. With 3 kingdoms worth of vassals added on top 3k shouldn't even be a possibility.

[NachtRitter]

Pirate Kingdom of man instantly feudalizes you too, doesnt it?

[DropHazard]

@NachtRitter
The Kingdom of Man and the Isles is a much more powerful decision since you also get the "legacy of piracy" dynastic modifier which allows you to continue to raid as feudal, the county of Man also gets 3 additional build slots AND you get enough dynasty prestige to grab 3 legacys.