I need to murder someone

[snuggleform]

But they have a strong hook on me, and I also can't imprison them either. Any thoughts? Just gotta wait it out?

[brownacs]

Not that I'm aware of. Having strong hooks held against you is painful. It's pretty much always better to just dare them to expose the secret in my opinion (unless the blackmailer's like 90 and dying). I've only had that problem once and it was a wife I couldn't get rid of. Really, really annoying.

[The Former]

In theory I think you could do it even with the hook...? You'd just have to abandon it if you're discovered and they ask. I could be misremembering, though.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by brownacs:

Not that I'm aware of. Having strong hooks held against you is painful. It's pretty much always better to just dare them to expose the secret in my opinion (unless the blackmailer's like 90 and dying). I've only had that problem once and it was a wife I couldn't get rid of. Really, really annoying.

That's exactly my situation, it's my wife. I never had the chance to deny the hook because it was already in place by the time I took over the husband as player heir.

The best workaround to what I'm trying to do is fornicate to get younger heirs.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

That's exactly my situation, it's my wife. I never had the chance to deny the hook because it was already in place by the time I took over the husband as player heir.

I think you're stuck with her. I'm not a fan of marrying my heirs (or having heirs much older than 20) and this is one of the reasons. The longer you leave the AI in control of them, the worse decisions they make and the more of them you're stuck with when you eventually take control.

Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

In theory I think you could do it even with the hook...? You'd just have to abandon it if you're discovered and they ask. I could be misremembering, though.

I could've sworn you can't initiate a murder scheme at all when they've got a strong hook. One of us is definitely misremembering.

[The Former]

Originally posted by brownacs:

Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

In theory I think you could do it even with the hook...? You'd just have to abandon it if you're discovered and they ask. I could be misremembering, though.

I could've sworn you can't initiate a murder scheme at all when they've got a strong hook. One of us is definitely misremembering.

Probably me, I've been out of the game for a while pending the release of the next big DLC.
I've got that "Don't wanna reset my game" syndrome going.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by Lockfågel, the Paradox Knight:

Originally posted by brownacs:

I could've sworn you can't initiate a murder scheme at all when they've got a strong hook. One of us is definitely misremembering.

Probably me, I've been out of the game for a while pending the release of the next big DLC.
I've got that "Don't wanna reset my game" syndrome going.

Me too. I'm playing Fallout 4 right now. Got it for cheaps. So could be me.

[snuggleform]

Ah this is a really interesting situation. I actually see why it's possible that the seduction tree is useful. The people I want to impregnate are dynasty members and since they're already married and happily so they have a huge penalty to seduction chance. I think the "unshackled lust" perk should get rid of the -100 penalty, I'll have to switch over and check.

[snuggleform]

Fallout 4 is so good.

No I cannot initiate a murder scheme against her, the reason is listed as she has a strong hook on me.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

Ah this is a really interesting situation. I actually see why it's possible that the seduction tree is useful. The people I want to impregnate are dynasty members and since they're already married and happily so they have a huge penalty to seduction chance. I think the "unshackled lust" perk should get rid of the -100 penalty, I'll have to switch over and check.

It will I think. The seduction tree does have some uses but they're pretty damn specific.

Originally posted by snuggleform:

Fallout 4 is so good.

I'm doing a survival playthrough. The first 30 levels or so were really, really painful. I think my character's level 72 now and the feeling of accomplishment when my character casually kills a deathclaw with 3 shots is great. I'm procrastinating finishing the main quest cos I'm going to go Institute and that'll lose me my fast travel so I'm trying to do all the side quests first. Some of the DLC enemies are real bullet sponges though.

[snuggleform]

There's nothing that matches that feeling when you're first roaming out near sanctuary with either classical music or the default soundtrack, so good.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

There's nothing that matches that feeling when you're first roaming out near sanctuary with either classical music or the default soundtrack, so good.

I'm a big fan of the Diamond City radio station. I love this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEKdt2y1-Mc
It goes brilliantly with VATs head shots and heads exploding.

[snuggleform]

That one's great too.

[Wolfsun]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

There's nothing that matches that feeling when you're first roaming out near sanctuary with either classical music or the default soundtrack, so good.

Try some Basil Poledouris soundtracks like the ones for the movie Quigley Down Under or the TV miniseries Lonesome Dove. It's eerey how appropriate any of the individual tracks is for almost any situation you find yourself in in FO4.

The Conan the Barbarian soundtrack by Basil is good too though some of the individual tracks can be quite over the top and violent and won't fit in to every FO4 situation.

[snuggleform]

Huh, unshackled lust actually doesn't overcome some penalties! I tried seducing my niece again but she still has a -50 because she doesn't want to dishonor her marriage, as well as -50 from opinion. I'm at a whopping 0% to seduce her.

I guess there IS a reason to get things like home advantage and other talents in the seduction tree.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

Huh, unshackled lust actually doesn't overcome some penalties! I tried seducing my niece again but she still has a -50 because she doesn't want to dishonor her marriage, as well as -50 from opinion. I'm at a whopping 0% to seduce her.

I guess there IS a reason to get things like home advantage and other talents in the seduction tree.

If you really commit to the tree and get the right hand perks (assuming you haven't), you should be able to get that up by quite a bit. The seduction tree is useful... it's just only useful with the seduction scheme which, unless you're trying to do something very specific like you are, is more of a fun bit of fluff than it is an integral game mechanic.