Celibate, no Casus Belli options in Declare war, yet I have claims

[ikkyu]

I know this has happened before, I know this has been a problem for a long time and I know the developers know about this. Yet nothing has been done.

Please fix this issue, because it is gamebeaking and the fact that this has been an issue for such a long time shows a very poor image of paradox in general and ck3 in particular.

To the developers: Why this hasn't been solved yet? What are you doing to solve this issue (apart from saying that you are aware of it and that has been logged in your database)?
I would like to receive an explanaiton.

Thank you for your attention

[Zsrai]

What issue? You wrote all that and explained nothing.

[Kapika96]

Yeah, there's not really anything to go on there. If you could post screenshots of both your claim and the person you're trying to declare war on that would help a lot. There might not actually be any issue in the first place, and if there is at least it would be clear what the issue was.

[ikkyu]

Sorry, I did not explain because there are many other discussions about this in the forum. Sometimes, if you are celibate and you have rights over a territory and you try to declare a war to the lord of that territory, there is no casus belly available in the "declare war" window. Specially if you have a vassal lord.

It has nothing to do with crown authority (I checked) and the right to declare war.

And I read in older dicussions that the developers are aware of this problem since long time ago (several months at least).

[Tiberius]

My ruler is currently a celibate and i can go to war just fine. Did you click on the press claim (i kinda forget the name) on the "declare a war" window?
Yea it would be nice if you have a scrshot

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by xaviandres:

Sorry, I did not explain because there are many other discussions about this in the forum. Sometimes, if you are celibate and you have rights over a territory and you try to declare a war to the lord of that territory, there is no casus belly available in the "declare war" window. Specially if you have a vassal lord.

It has nothing to do with crown authority (I checked) and the right to declare war.

And I read in older dicussions that the developers are aware of this problem since long time ago (several months at least).

If you say the devs are aware of it, maybe it is an issue. But I can't say I've ever seen it mentioned before, nor have I encountered it in game myself.

Who exactly are you trying to declare war on? If they're a vassal and have a different liege than you then you can't declare war on them (maybe that's what's happening here?), you have to declare war on their liege instead. eg. if you're playing as a French character and you have a claim on Kent, you wouldn't get a cassus belli on the count of Kent, you'd get a CB on the king of England instead.

[ikkyu]

I'm a vassal of the Bizantine Empire and I try to declare war to a fellow bizantine vassal. And, though I have claims to the other vassal's territories, still no Cassus Belli shown in the Declare War window option.
Is not that I forgot to press the claim in the declare war window: the game doesn't even show any of my claims in the declare war window.

And I know the issue is not about crown authority (that can be what is not allowing your ruler to declare war on fellow vassals) because I already modified my contract with my lord (the bizantine emperor) to be able to declare war.

I also know that this issue doesn't always happen (maybe only when your ruler is celibate AND you have a vassal lord? I don't really know) but it happens sometimes. I played an entire campaign with the persian empire and I did not have this issue. However, this is the 2nd time I try with the bizantine empire and both times I had the same issue (which is very discouraging, because I want to eventually get the bizantine throne, but it would be very difficult to get if I cannot declare war for my claims inside the bizantine empire).

I also know (I read an older forum about this same topic) that the developers have been aware of this issue for some time and I don't expect you guys to find the solution.

I just wanted to express in the forum that this issue is still happening, as it has been happening for some time, and that I find it very annoying.

Thank you all for your help and your attention.

[Zsrai]

I've never had this problem, so your "I read somewhere" evidence is pretty thin. Do you have any links to the bug report forum?

Originally posted by xaviandres:

I just wanted to express in the forum that this issue is still happening, as it has been happening for some time, and that I find it very annoying.

Originally posted by xaviandres:

To the developers: Why this hasn't been solved yet? What are you doing to solve this issue (apart from saying that you are aware of it and that has been logged in your database)?
I would like to receive an explanaiton.

So do you want an explanation for a bug that no one else here seems to know about, or do you just want to rant at the devs pointlessly? It seems more like the latter, especially with the obvious backpedaling when pushed.

[Kvinden]

I never saw this either. With claims it is always possible to declare war. As you say, to the leage, not to the vassal.
But then maybe it is a rare bug appearing only in some specific situations for specific persons. It is very hard for the devs to fix it because it is hard to reproduce.
Such things happen
They already have fixed a lot of bugs I never encountered. It doesn't mean they don't exist

[captain403]

There is an issue that only seems to affect some religions, where, if you are celibate you can't declare war using claims you have. As soon as you abandon celibacy, you can use those claims. Orthodoxy seems to be affected. whereas the eastern religions aren't.

It may only affect female rulers.

It's a bug that has been there since launch.

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by xaviandres:

I'm a vassal of the Bizantine Empire and I try to declare war to a fellow bizantine vassal. And, though I have claims to the other vassal's territories, still no Cassus Belli shown in the Declare War window option.
Is not that I forgot to press the claim in the declare war window: the game doesn't even show any of my claims in the declare war window.

Still not enough info to be sure that it's not something else causing it.

If you're a duke in the Byzantine Empire and have a claim on a county then you can only declare war on the count that has it if he's a direct vassal of the Emperor, or a direct vassal of the same king that you're a vassal of. If he has a duke then you need to declare war on the duke instead, if he has a king then you need to declare war on the king instead (unless they're also your king, then you could go for the duke).

Just because you're both part of the Byzantine Empire doesn't mean you can declare war with a claim, there may be other people in the hierarchy above your enemy that you need to declare on instead.

[Cassius]

Necro bump. 2023 this is still a bug apparently. Celibate character couldn't declare war because Casus Belli was not listed. However, choosing to end celibacy made the Casus Belli appear immediately in the interface allowing me to declare war. Thanks OP, I was truly confused about what was going on, glad I found this thread.

[Beatbeat Goodbeat]

Originally posted by Cassius:

Necro bump. 2023 this is still a bug apparently. Celibate character couldn't declare war because Casus Belli was not listed. However, choosing to end celibacy made the Casus Belli appear immediately in the interface allowing me to declare war. Thanks OP, I was truly confused about what was going on, glad I found this thread.

its not a bug, but a feature of Greek cultural tradition of Byzantine Traditions.
"Characters with negative physical traits cannot use Claim Casus Belli"
Celebrate is counted as eunuch, but unlike eunuchs your character can choose to reproduce again.

[captain403]

Originally posted by Beatbeat Goodbeat:

Originally posted by Cassius:

Necro bump. 2023 this is still a bug apparently. Celibate character couldn't declare war because Casus Belli was not listed. However, choosing to end celibacy made the Casus Belli appear immediately in the interface allowing me to declare war. Thanks OP, I was truly confused about what was going on, glad I found this thread.

its not a bug, but a feature of Greek cultural tradition of Byzantine Traditions.
"Characters with negative physical traits cannot use Claim Casus Belli"
Celebrate is counted as eunuch, but unlike eunuchs your character can choose to reproduce again.

I would say it IS a bug. Why should someone who comes from Waikikamukau give a tinkers about Jo Blo's traditions when he is trying to get his stuff? Now if it happens to be Jo's uncle, I can understand it, but not some stranger who has traditions of his own.

[Mepho]

Originally posted by Beatbeat Goodbeat:

its not a bug, but a feature of Greek cultural tradition of Byzantine Traditions.
"Characters with negative physical traits cannot use Claim Casus Belli"
Celebrate is counted as eunuch, but unlike eunuchs your character can choose to reproduce again.

You just explained how it is indeed a bug, lol.
"Celebrate is counted as eunuch". Celibate shouldn't count as a negative physical trait. That's kinda obvious.

What's with people saying one thing and explaining the opposite in this forum? :'D

[vortex_13]

Originally posted by Mepho:

Originally posted by Beatbeat Goodbeat:

its not a bug, but a feature of Greek cultural tradition of Byzantine Traditions.
"Characters with negative physical traits cannot use Claim Casus Belli"
Celebrate is counted as eunuch, but unlike eunuchs your character can choose to reproduce again.

You just explained how it is indeed a bug, lol.
"Celebrate is counted as eunuch". Celibate shouldn't count as a negative physical trait. That's kinda obvious.

What's with people saying one thing and explaining the opposite in this forum? :'D

if you're celibate you can't press claims under Greek culture rules. It's intended. It's not a bug. Now if you want to say that it's stupid than fine.