Custom vs Established Characters - Which do you think is funner?

[Vincent_Krys]

I'm just curious about this, but is anybody finding themselves playing custom characters way more than established characters?

The last established Character I played was Vratislav of Bohemia, and that was many months ago. Since then, I find myself only playing custom characters now and keeping them within the 400 point limit for achievements, and just to say I'm not playing a ridiculously OP character. I just love being able to choose my own personality traits and life focuses depending on how I wanna play in that moment as well as what type events I want to experience. Plus creating your own character to put a dent in the world and creating your own personal story-line is just much more appealing to me.

That's not to say established characters aren't appealing; Most established characters have pre-disposed traits, personalities and paths already - which is understandable and is fine, plus some of them have special events and situations you essentially don't get when you play as a custom character. Story-lines are established and rivalries are already there, most of the time you already have claims, an established court, high fame and renown, allies, titles and land, and most of the time it's easier to play them than a custom character, even though you can build a pretty strong character within the 400 point limit.

I haven't played many established characters since I started the game, I'm just wondering if the majority or minority of people are like this too? Or am I just missing out for not preferring established characters vs Custom ones? I'm sure there are some really fun historical story-lines I'm missing by not playing these established characters, I just can't resist making my own story in this world.

[HisShadowX]

I have yet to play an establish family or kingdom. If anything I know the hardcore minority is mad everyone is 'cheating' or 'not getting enough achievements' as they have this BDSM mentality for gaming where everything must be hard and unforgiving.

I wish they would keep their BDSM habits in their own games and in their own bedroom and stop trying to change everyone elses experiences

[Heraclius Caesar]

Originally posted by Vincent_Krys:

I'm just curious about this, but is anybody finding themselves playing custom characters way more than established characters?

The last established Character I played was Vratislav of Bohemia, and that was many months ago. Since then, I find myself only playing custom characters now and keeping them within the 400 point limit for achievements, and just to say I'm not playing a ridiculously OP character. I just love being able to choose my own personality traits and life focuses depending on how I wanna play in that moment as well as what type events I want to experience. Plus creating your own character to put a dent in the world and creating your own personal story-line is just much more appealing to me.

That's not to say established characters aren't appealing; Most established characters have pre-disposed traits, personalities and paths already - which is understandable and is fine, plus some of them have special events and situations you essentially don't get when you play as a custom character. Story-lines are established and rivalries are already there, most of the time you already have claims, an established court, high fame and renown, allies, titles and land, and most of the time it's easier to play them than a custom character, even though you can build a pretty strong character within the 400 point limit.

I haven't played many established characters since I started the game, I'm just wondering if the majority or minority of people are like this too? Or am I just missing out for not preferring established characters vs Custom ones? I'm sure there are some really fun historical story-lines I'm missing by not playing these established characters, I just can't resist making my own story in this world.

Personally I prefer starting/playing as historical figures, but to each their own.

Originally posted by HisShadowX:

I have yet to play an establish family or kingdom. If anything I know the hardcore minority is mad everyone is 'cheating' or 'not getting enough achievements' as they have this BDSM mentality for gaming where everything must be hard and unforgiving.

I wish they would keep their BDSM habits in their own games and in their own bedroom and stop trying to change everyone elses experiences

Wow.

Yea bud, the historical personages in game whose stats and traits you didn't get to cherry pick can only possibly be meant for the "hardcore minority" to play. As usual, you sound absolutely ridiculous.

[Vincent_Krys]

Originally posted by HisShadowX:

I have yet to play an establish family or kingdom. If anything I know the hardcore minority is mad everyone is 'cheating' or 'not getting enough achievements' as they have this BDSM mentality for gaming where everything must be hard and unforgiving.

I wish they would keep their BDSM habits in their own games and in their own bedroom and stop trying to change everyone elses experiences

I'm sure people who call it 'cheating' or 'not getting enough achievements' are a very tiny minority since I don't really see it. But how is it considered 'cheating' specifically? Most of the time the Established characters are just always better than a custom character as long as you stay within the 400 point limit, it's basically a handicap in that sense; that doesn't make sense to me.

[Vincent_Krys]

Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:

Originally posted by Vincent_Krys:

I'm just curious about this, but is anybody finding themselves playing custom characters way more than established characters?

The last established Character I played was Vratislav of Bohemia, and that was many months ago. Since then, I find myself only playing custom characters now and keeping them within the 400 point limit for achievements, and just to say I'm not playing a ridiculously OP character. I just love being able to choose my own personality traits and life focuses depending on how I wanna play in that moment as well as what type events I want to experience. Plus creating your own character to put a dent in the world and creating your own personal story-line is just much more appealing to me.

That's not to say established characters aren't appealing; Most established characters have pre-disposed traits, personalities and paths already - which is understandable and is fine, plus some of them have special events and situations you essentially don't get when you play as a custom character. Story-lines are established and rivalries are already there, most of the time you already have claims, an established court, high fame and renown, allies, titles and land, and most of the time it's easier to play them than a custom character, even though you can build a pretty strong character within the 400 point limit.

I haven't played many established characters since I started the game, I'm just wondering if the majority or minority of people are like this too? Or am I just missing out for not preferring established characters vs Custom ones? I'm sure there are some really fun historical story-lines I'm missing by not playing these established characters, I just can't resist making my own story in this world.

Personally I prefer starting/playing as historical figures, but to each their own.

Originally posted by HisShadowX:

I have yet to play an establish family or kingdom. If anything I know the hardcore minority is mad everyone is 'cheating' or 'not getting enough achievements' as they have this BDSM mentality for gaming where everything must be hard and unforgiving.

I wish they would keep their BDSM habits in their own games and in their own bedroom and stop trying to change everyone elses experiences

Wow.

Yea bud, the historical personages in game whose stats and traits you didn't get to cherry pick can only possibly be meant for the "hardcore minority" to play. As usual, you sound absolutely ridiculous.

I get that and I do think I should try it more often that I do. It just doesn't feel as 'personal' as when you make your own since everything is already established (Court, Marriage, Kids, Claims, etc). I usually start my character as unmarried and no kids, and usually as a Count or Duke - being mindful to never replace actual major historical figures so I'm not OP or have any advantage by any stretch of the imagination, and everything I do is built up myself. Maybe it's a little self conceited but I enjoy it, but I should break out of the bubble too and give those awesome historical characters a shot.

[Luzilyo]

i personally prefer playing a custom character using the ruler designer. to me it's much more fun to rp as my own char. i don't even give a ♥♥♥♥ about achievements, but i still try to stay within the 400 points limit just so that my character doesn't end up completely op and making the game boring.

[Vincent_Krys]

Originally posted by Luzilyo:

i personally prefer playing a custom character using the ruler designer. to me it's much more fun to rp as my own char. i don't even give a ♥♥♥♥ about achievements, but i still try to stay within the 400 points limit just so that my character doesn't end up completely op and making the game boring.

Exactly my feeling. It's just so much more personal with your court and your own domain you personally built yourself. As long as you stay within the 400 point limit, in Paradoxs' own words that's the cutoff where a character isn't considered too strong. I would argue that a 400 point custom character is never as good as the vast majority of the established characters too, and it's actually tougher to play one.

That being said I should try the established characters more often too, since I'm sure there are some very fun story-lines to go through.

[Khorne Flakes]

I enjoy making my own character and going from 867 lowly count to The Senate of the galaxy.

[Vincent_Krys]

Originally posted by Khorne Flakes:

I enjoy making my own character and going from 867 lowly count to The Senate of the galaxy.

Reorganize the Carolingian Kingdoms, into the first, ever, Holy Roman Empire!

[Khorne Flakes]

Originally posted by Vincent_Krys:

Originally posted by Khorne Flakes:

I enjoy making my own character and going from 867 lowly count to The Senate of the galaxy.

Reorganize the Carolingian Kingdoms, into the first, ever, Holy Roman Empire!

For a safe and secuuure Christendom!