WHY CANT I JOIN MY VASSAL'S WARS?

[KipReigns]

It's the dumbest thing ever and im losing lots of territory because of it

[T.]

you should be able to join if your vassal is fighting against rebel uprisings.

if they fight with another vassal its up to them.
you can request the vassals to stop, which they often refuse.
you have to raise crown authority.

If your vassal is fighting with a subvassal you can use the option "revoke vassal" which stops the war immediatly.

If someone from outside of your realm is attacking your vassal he should already be in war with you.

[ste]

Youre not losing any territory, your vassals cant lose you territory, only gain you territory

[ivanmushi10000]

Yeah your vassals will lose the war but not lose land. They might have to give up money, and your provinces will be tore up a bit but you shouldnt be losing actual land

[T.]

Publicado originalmente por T.:

If your vassal is fighting with a subvassal you can use the option "revoke vassal" which stops the war immediatly.

It could be under some circumstances, i believe, that if his subvassals form a faction that would bring another ruler from another realm onto the throne thats the only way you could lose land when the vassal loses.

as said above you have to revoke the vassal from him and make this vassal a direct vassal of yourself. this stops the war immediatly

[KipReigns]

No, sometimes other realms declare war on just your vassal, decimate them and take all their land and you can do literally nothing about it.

[Varro]

Maybe you are mixing something up, but this isn't how it works. If someone outside your realm wants your provinces, they cannot declare war upon your vassal and take their land, just like you cant declare war on a count who is a vassal of another realm. You (and everyone else) will always declare war on the king/emperor (whatever is highest in that specific realm) if you want to take land from someone else. This is the whole point of a feudal contract - you pay a ruler who is in a higher position than you taxes and levies in return for their protection, thus making you a vassal and part of that realm. Your vassal can get embroild in an outside war if they are allied to someone and aid in their war, but they cannot loose land that way.

[KipReigns]

Im in tribal and also I have seen people declare war on my vassals and take them over

[thundershield3]

Ok, you are definitely missing something, because it is literally impossible for another ruler to declare war on only your vassal. Wars can only be declared on the top liege. Are you sure they were your vassal? If you form a kingdom, not everyone in it automatically becomes your vassal.

[CrUsHeR]

Only ways for you to lose land:

a) you get war declared on you and lose / surrender

b) there is a pop-up from a populist/independence faction and you accept their demands

c) your vassal is waging a subjugation war on a foreign realm - if he wins, he hijacks that realm and becomes independent from you (assuming the target title was equal or higher than yours)

d) someone from a foreign realm inherits land from your realm

e) your succession law is confederate partition, and you have enough land to create multiple titles of your own highest rank


Generally the tribal realms are unstable, feudal realms in 1066 are the actual purpose of the game.

[The Former]

Publicado originalmente por KipReigns:

No, sometimes other realms declare war on just your vassal, decimate them and take all their land and you can do literally nothing about it.

That's not how it works. If you want to claim land, you declare on the target's liege. Try it for yourself. If you try to take Anjou, you're going to have to declare war on the King of France.

[Blue]

sometime your stupid indirect vassal will demand claimant outsider for your vassal title, this can cause your to lose land if the outsider has at least king title.

[Rialm]

You could kindly ask them to stop.

[Troy]

Bump in 2024. Why can't you? Even in multiplayer? Is there a mod that invalidates this problem?

[jpcerutti]

Publicado originalmente por Troy:

Bump in 2024. Why can't you? Even in multiplayer? Is there a mod that invalidates this problem?

If you're going to bump an old question it makes more sense to bump one that asks a good question in the first place.

"Why can't I automatically join any vassal's war, or vassal of a vassal, or however far down the line IF I am the top level liege of all of those people?" is a better question because you CAN join a vassal's war in several ways for several reasons.

[jpcerutti]

Publicado originalmente por jpcerutti:

Publicado originalmente por Troy:

Bump in 2024. Why can't you? Even in multiplayer? Is there a mod that invalidates this problem?

If you're going to bump an old question it makes more sense to bump one that asks a good question in the first place.

"Why can't I automatically join any vassal's war, or vassal of a vassal, or however far down the line IF I am the top level liege of all of those people?" is a better question because you CAN join a vassal's war in several ways for several reasons.

If it is a revolt you just ask them. You can frequently just ask. If you ally them you can join allies' wars. If they are several levels removed from you the taxes you collect are inconsequential and will be paid no matter who ends up owning the land in the end. If you're not going to lose any territory it doesn't really make much difference who holds the title. If you have a particular interest in who owns that piece of real estate vassalize them directly OR ally them.

If they are not doing what you want them to do act like a king or emperor instead of being grumpy that the game isn't doing what you would prefer it to do. Revoke titles. Declare war. Murder and imprison people. If you're going to try and rule giant pieces of land rule them already when your subjects and neighbors misbehave.