Chivalric Religion

[[Heretic]Rivga]

A bit of theory crafting for anyone interested, I was thinking after another play though of trying to make my own religion: heavily focused on a sort of Chivalric/warrior code.

What setup would you recommend?

Has anyone done this?

[CrUsHeR]

I guess this needs to be repeated in every single thread on the topic:

You do not create a new religion, but a custom faith which is merely based on your existing faith.

So the first question would be - which religion should this new faith be based on. The religions have a hardcoded set of virtues and sins, for example Norse/Asatru has Brave / Vengeful / Wrathful as virtues, which supports great warriors (but also guarantees internal chaos).

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Religion#Religions

Then there's also the question which faith you want to start with, since this determines the holy sites (which you cannot change), and simultaneously also has an impact on the faith creation cost. So the more changes you need to do to the tenets and doctrines, the more expensive it gets.

Example the Almohadi are a great choice if you are playing in the Gibraltar region, since two of their unique holy sites are Fes and Tinmallal, and they already have the Warmonger tenet. So you could change Literalism to Unrelenting Faith, perhaps look at the doctrines, and you're good to go.

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Faith

[[Heretic]Rivga]

I understand that you need to base your religion on a pre-existing religion, I did not feel I needed to state it.

That said I am after ideas as more of a theory crafting, so part of the answer would probably be for example - started at Islam then....

Norse maybe a good start but is hardly Chivalric, and I suppose that is where the difficulty lies being both Honorable and warlike does not really go hand in hand.

[Tarshaid]

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

I understand that you need to base your religion on a pre-existing religion, I did not feel I needed to state it.

That said I am after ideas as more of a theory crafting, so part of the answer would probably be for example - started at Islam then....

Norse maybe a good start but is hardly Chivalric, and I suppose that is where the difficulty lies being both Honorable and warlike does not really go hand in hand.

Well then maybe we can start by finding which religion has the most "chivalric" virtues, as those will be unchangeable. Then we can fiddle with the doctrines afterwaards (although there may be differences in available doctrines maybe? I'm not really good with that).

First we can see that a bunch of Pagan religion have "Brave" as a virtue, and unlike the Norse religion, have other virtues that may be more in line with a proper warrior code.

The "steppe" (tengrism?) and "zunbil" (don't know what that is) faith start with Brave/Honest/Just as virtues, which seems to fit proper chivalric behaviour, but we can find a bunch of other religions with slight variations, like "Hausa" (bori?) which replaces justice with humility, or "oromo-somali" (waqist?) and akan with compassion rather than honesty. There are also a few others with slight variations, but I think those fit quite right.

A slight nod for the "uralic" (taltoist?) one, who has gregarious as a virtue and doesn't seem to fit too much, but whose background description seems on point with Taltos imbued with the strength to protect their communities.

[Twelvefield]

Technically, wouldn't the most chivalric religion be straight-up Catholicism? I mean, all those orders in history waged war for the Catholic Pope.