"Your daughter and woman" - No children being born!

[CrUsHeR]

Obviously a bug that you can take close relatives as concubines although your faith forbids this - can anyone confirm that this never results into children being born?



Had been playing a random ruler last night who was a Chieftain in Mongolia, probably the worst ruler i ever had - Craven (sin for tengris), Homosexual (25% to seduce), so bad stats that he a domain limit of 2, already married to the worst wife i ever had, and two daughters at the tender age of 13 or ~10.

Then i thought, "well it cannot get any WORSE", so i took the daughters as concubines.
20 years later i was already King, and neither the daughters nor wife had given birth to a single son. Then dumped the daughter-bines, married them to smart guys and they got immediately pregnant.

Proof or coincidence?

[Kapika96]

Sounds more like your guy was shooting blanks.

If neither the daughter/concubines or wife could get pregnant then you'd assume it's because of the man, rather than the women.

[JerBeware]

Plus your character was homosexual, which means he wasn't mating with them as frequently so the chance of children goes down. I believe you also lose the seduce/romance options with them, etc.

[GorishiDan]

Definitely a bug or bad luck - Ive had kids through close family concubines in my previous playthrough

[Bermag]

Happened with my current ruler. He had both daughters as concubines and even got a son from that relation. Looks weird lol "Son and grandson". Got good stats though both intelligent and Handsome. So yeah you can get children from incest relations.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Bermag:

Happened with my current ruler. He had both daughters as concubines and even got a son from that relation. Looks weird lol "Son and grandson". Got good stats though both intelligent and Handsome. So yeah you can get children from incest relations.

Was that with a faith which allows close family incest?

[Bermag]

No (Asatru) only cousine marriage. No incest secret etc. I guess it is a bug.

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by Bermag:

No (Asatru) only cousine marriage. No incest secret etc. I guess it is a bug.

Okay then this was apparently the ruler's fault. Already spent his ammunition on those 2 daughters, i assume.

Well the ability to take anyone as concubine is definitely a bug, because the interface to "take concubine" does properly filter out characters you also couldn't marry based on your faith's incest laws. Only the direct interaction on a character portrait allows this.

[Lovecraft's Cat]

I think of it as a loophole. Yeah I can't have a daughter-wife, that would be immoral. But technically she's not my wife so that's fine with Odin. And hey, I even let her go and marry once she pops out my future granddaughter and daughter-concubine.