Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

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aquila 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 8:57
How does one win ANY war in this Game?
I have like 30 Hours by now but dont understand most of the stuff, never played a CK before.
Right now I play as an Irish Lord and try to conquer whole Ireland for the Achievement (so Ironman on, which makes it even harder for beginners)

I dont even wage war at the beginning, I just try to build up my Military over time, then attack the nearest and smallest Kingdom, and even then my Army gets beaten despite being like 4 times as large. I besiege the capital of my enemie and win, but he still does not surrender, I mean what more can I even do to win the war?

And suddenly THREE seperate Lords declare war on me and attack all over the place, so I use my money to buy Mercenaries and have like 1400 Men now, which I thought was A LOT.

More you know, opponents come at me with 3000 MEN per army. how is this even possible? They have smaller countries than me, how the F can they have such large armies and the gold to support them?

This feels really impossible at the moment. what am I doing wrong? Am I supposed to rush the other Lords early before they can build up?
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EA Latium 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:23 
First things first, numbers don't always matter, the Men-at-arms are much more valuable than Levies by a wide margin, since you are still in early game this doesn't matter much at the moment but keep this in mind for later.

Generals are extremely important, they can even change the tide of a battle in many cases, their ability is determined by their Martial, also have a look at their Traits; Knights are powerful units, their effectiveness depends by their Prowess.

Terrain is a major factor to take in consideration in warfare and maneuvering your army well can makethe difference; terrains have different bonuses for Defenders, different combat width and speed, rivers play a role too. When on a hostile holding, the "foreign" armies are always considered the attacker unless they (or their allies) control said holding.

Sieging the Capital gives a lot of Warscore, plus the possibility of imprisoning people or the ruler themselves, but it's not it, winning battles and sieging other holdings give warscore too; if you control the war the goal, your score will start ticking, same for the opposite though.

They could have a better income, more savings, or simply going in debt, however that carries problems which you can actually use to your advantage.

Manage your Supply, if you are running out of them your army won't perform at its best and will start losing men due attrition (deaths and deserters); likewise, when an army crosses an uncontrolled fort takes a hit.

Your neighbours are "aware" of their surroundings, if they want something from you they will strike at the best moment, often situations can escalate very easily, to avoid that try to get an alliance as a deterrent and install Dynasty members on independent thrones.

Last but definitely not least, war isn't the only way to expand, try using Marriages, either through Diplomacy or Intrigue and you'll be able to inherit lands as well.
Zornvel 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:27 
Also as Irish you were very close to two viking lords, they start with a 5000 man army and they will keep them till all of the soldiers were dead, no matter the size of their land.
担担面 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:31 
Check their alliances, check if you have any faction waging war against you. Unless you capture your opponent or his heir you will have to take more objectives than just the capital. You can check war score, you won’t be able to enforce demands unless it’s at 100%. Take the castles within the region that you are contesting, win battles, don’t let enemy occupy your territory. Eventually you will win.

Their army might be of better quality than yours. Make sure you have a lot of mens at arms, decent quality knights and choose a fitting commanders for your armies.
Triton 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:33 
1. Ireland is not the appropriate place to learn the game. For CK2 was fine, but in CK3 you need to be under the umbrella of large Kingdom or Empire like Byzantium.
2. If you start as a baron u can progress at your own pace, lets say your play as baron of Messena (1066) you can expand through holy war to the rest of Sicily. In most cases the Duchy of Apulia will collapse due to wars with Tuscany or Croatia. That will be your window to expand to Salerno, Napoli, Apulia lands. What ever you choose its basically timing.
3. As for military A. choose pikeman and archers for start, and then heavy infantry. B. Invite knights by spending prestige. If you have daughters or low noble women you can marry them (matrilineal) with high prowess characters. Prowess is very important for the effectiveness of your troops in a battle. C. before you attack check if AI has alliances.

The best character to learn the game is Jarl Haesteinn in Nantes (867). Starts with 500g and a lot prestige to expand anywhere. If you love Ireland you can conquer half of it in no time with this character and then you can convert to catholic religion and Irish culture.
Just keep in mind after u succeed a major Tittle (Duchy) to give away your starting area in order to avoid war with France unless you occupy Brittany.

aquila 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:36 
引用自 EA Latium
First things first, numbers don't always matter, the Men-at-arms are much more valuable than Levies by a wide margin, since you are still in early game this doesn't matter much at the moment but keep this in mind for later.

Generals are extremely important, they can even change the tide of a battle in many cases, their ability is determined by their Martial, also have a look at their Traits; Knights are powerful units, their effectiveness depends by their Prowess.

Terrain is a major factor to take in consideration in warfare and maneuvering your army well can makethe difference; terrains have different bonuses for Defenders, different combat width and speed, rivers play a role too. When on a hostile holding, the "foreign" armies are always considered the attacker unless they (or their allies) control said holding.

Sieging the Capital gives a lot of Warscore, plus the possibility of imprisoning people or the ruler themselves, but it's not it, winning battles and sieging other holdings give warscore too; if you control the war the goal, your score will start ticking, same for the opposite though.

They could have a better income, more savings, or simply going in debt, however that carries problems which you can actually use to your advantage.

Manage your Supply, if you are running out of them your army won't perform at its best and will start losing men due attrition (deaths and deserters); likewise, when an army crosses an uncontrolled fort takes a hit.

Your neighbours are "aware" of their surroundings, if they want something from you they will strike at the best moment, often situations can escalate very easily, to avoid that try to get an alliance as a deterrent and install Dynasty members on independent thrones.

Last but definitely not least, war isn't the only way to expand, try using Marriages, either through Diplomacy or Intrigue and you'll be able to inherit lands as well.

How do I get a General? I my character considered the general? Or do I need to "promote" a Knight for that task?
EA Latium 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:39 
You could actually go either way -when you select an army you can see its panel at the bottom left, clicking there will open the list of potential generals you have with their skills. Choose the one that seems more appropriate.

引用自 Triton
1. Ireland is not the appropriate place to learn the game. For CK2 was fine, but in CK3 you need to be under the umbrella of large Kingdom or Empire like Byzantium.

Ireland is still great for beginners but in 1066 that is, 867 is a different beast.
alegdansk 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:40 
Normally your general is your Council Marshal
Kapika96 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 9:47 
Don't play in Ireland.

Honestly, for a first game I'd recommend the 1066 Bohemia start. Start with one of, if not the, best duchy in the game. A somewhat decent succession type. The protection of the Emperor. And a whole load of options for people to attack (most of whom you should be stronger than).
Triton 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 10:03 
引用自 EA Latium
Ireland is still great for beginners but in 1066 that is, 867 is a different beast.

Depends upon England, will split or not. (1066)
Mediterranean countries are more fun and you have a lot of space to expand.
Germaine's Bra 2020 年 10 月 28 日 上午 10:08 
Start as Eudes, it gives you a better protection from most of this till you figure it out.
EA Latium 2020 年 10 月 28 日 下午 1:03 
引用自 Triton

Depends upon England, will split or not. (1066)
Mediterranean countries are more fun and you have a lot of space to expand.

Uniting Ireland is still rather easy and will probably be undisturbed for a while. Personally I prefer the Mediterranean too otherwise.
Fredericks of Cursewood 2020 年 10 月 28 日 下午 2:09 
I am doing an Irish Campaign on the 873 and here are the first things that I did.

1:) Swear fealty to the Viking in Dublin. Odds are that he won't attack you if you don't, but you will guarantee that non of the other independent Irish will attack you either. As soon as you claim your first Duchy/High Chiefton, you will become independent again without having to go to war with him.

2:) Marry for maximum martial and and have your wife focus on martial. You should be able to find someone with 20+ martial which will raise your martial score by 10 or so.

3:) Go Military Focused and take the +3 Martial.

4:) Raid your neighbors to get gold and prestige.

5:) Build some men at arms. Early on a few will make huge difference against the rest of the Irish.

You can roll up all the Irish in about 10 years without any investment in castles or even spending money on mercenaries. Just max out your martial and beat them into submission.
Lemilys 2020 年 10 月 28 日 下午 2:31 
You said: I besiege the capital of my enemies and win, but he still does not surrender, I mean what more can I even do to win the war?

Do you know how to actually end a war? You say they don't surrender but you need to enforce your demands when the warscore reaches 100%. Do you know how to do that?
aquila 2020 年 10 月 28 日 下午 3:29 
引用自 squigglyhopper
You said: I besiege the capital of my enemies and win, but he still does not surrender, I mean what more can I even do to win the war?

Do you know how to actually end a war? You say they don't surrender but you need to enforce your demands when the warscore reaches 100%. Do you know how to do that?

yes I know that, but at the big war screen It stops at 99% even tho im clearly winning, I beat all his armies and take over all the citys, he just wont give in.
Zortex 2020 年 10 月 28 日 下午 3:57 
引用自 aquila
yes I know that, but at the big war screen It stops at 99% even tho im clearly winning, I beat all his armies and take over all the citys, he just wont give in.

That sounds like a bug. I've had similar things a couple of times, not often though.

You'll probably need to offer white peace, then give it another go after the truce expires. Go after someone else in the mean time.
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