CK3 feels too easy compared to CK2 for some reason

[TomOfFinland]

In CK2 it was a constant struggle if you started as a count. In CK3 every game I've started with just one county has lead to me ruling huge empires in no time.
Does anyone else feel that the game is too easy?

[Martini]

Kinda agree, for me CK2 felt more complex even without DLCs

[Holy Athena]

Because Ck3 is the watered down ♥♥♥♥♥♥ version of Ck2. Despite what fanboys will tell you.

[Kapika96]

CK2 could be pretty easy too. Especially in some starts. 1 county doesn't mean much. Start as a 1 county nomad in CK2 and you can still easily pull off a world conquest. 1 county western Europe? You can build up there, or just wait for a crusade and go from 1 county to a kingdom, then use more crusades to add extra kingdoms and end up with a huge empire still. 1 county in the Byzantine empire? You can easily work your way up to Basileus.

[EA Latium]

Not really. The thing is for us CK2 players we came here with prior knowledge, so didn't have to learn that much at the end of the day.

I feel like Empires are way too stable and easy to manage though.

[Martini]

引用自 Holy Athena：

Because Ck3 is the watered down ♥♥♥♥♥♥ version of Ck2. Despite what fanboys will tell you.

tru

[paul32]

I never played CK2, so I find CK3 pretty hard. I only ever achieved once to make an empire, where my vassals fought against me after some time and won.

But I find CK3 pretty understandable. Its not that its hard, because I cant understand something, but because there is sooo much to balance and consider with every move.
So if CK3 is a watered down version of CK2, than BY GOD i dont want to play CK2.

[Tarshaid]

引用自 paul32：

I never played CK2, so I find CK3 pretty hard. I only ever achieved once to make an empire, where my vassals fought against me after some time and won.

But I find CK3 pretty understandable. Its not that its hard, because I cant understand something, but because there is sooo much to balance and consider with every move.
So if CK3 is a watered down version of CK2, than BY GOD i dont want to play CK2.

It also feels like CK3 is finally a Paradox game that properly tells you how stuff works, so on top of CK2 veterans being already used to it, it's less of a struggle to know what to do.

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

CK2 is pretty easy to from count to Emperor in a few generations. I would say that CK2 is easier to get a monster size empire where you run the whole map.

[EA Latium]

引用自 paul32：

I never played CK2, so I find CK3 pretty hard. I only ever achieved once to make an empire, where my vassals fought against me after some time and won.

But I find CK3 pretty understandable. Its not that its hard, because I cant understand something, but because there is sooo much to balance and consider with every move.
So if CK3 is a watered down version of CK2, than BY GOD i dont want to play CK2.

I'd say that's rather hyperbolic, anyway it's also the fact that CK2 received many updates in the years.

[nadn]

I found CK3 too easy too.

[MyBanan]

引用自 TomOfFinland：

In CK2 it was a constant struggle if you started as a count. In CK3 every game I've started with just one county has lead to me ruling huge empires in no time.
Does anyone else feel that the game is too easy?

Because it is easier. way easier infact so they can get new players. Kinda annoying tbh

[KharnTheKhan]

Ck3 does feel easier, But definitely more annoying, Once you get a few provinces, The entire world dogpiles you, Ive started as kushites and the country at the very bottom of africa next to the river allied the byzantine empire because the Ai doesnt have the distance restrictions like we do

[Twelvefield]

CK2 for me would flip-flop between too easy and too hard in any one game. Recreating Shakespeare's Denmark resulted in a particularly Shakespearean set of usurpings and death. Playing out as a Ruthenian count, on the other hand, had me unexpectedly inheriting the entire Holy Roman Empire and with it half the map.

I don't mind the challenge of CK2. I don't even mind necessarily how wildly random it becomes sometimes, since there are ways to mitigate that. What I do like in CK3 a lot more than CK2 is that there are many fewer mouseclicks needed to get the same things done.

[[OCe]Kagari]

引用自 Kapika96：

CK2 could be pretty easy too. Especially in some starts. 1 county doesn't mean much. Start as a 1 county nomad in CK2 and you can still easily pull off a world conquest. 1 county western Europe? You can build up there, or just wait for a crusade and go from 1 county to a kingdom, then use more crusades to add extra kingdoms and end up with a huge empire still. 1 county in the Byzantine empire? You can easily work your way up to Basileus.

Yea the crusades was so broken in holy fury CK2. I dont know what they were thinking when they rework them.

[Phantom Viceroy]

So, I'm guessing most or all of you don't play Ironman on Normal or better. Ironman puts a whole new perspective on that next move you are planning. So far, after maybe 10 starts, I've gone the farthest with Georgia, 1066, with six generations before I was hit from three sides. I've stayed away from the large nations and worked small ones and a couple recommended ones. As anyone who played it can tell you, if you want a challenge, go Ironman. Thanks for listening.