Good Mongol/steppe characters?

[Kuromiya]

One of the most memorable games I played in CK2 was my Aladdin Run. I didn't actually wind up getting the achievement, since it would take too long and I wound up doing more interesting things, but in a nutshell - I took a Han family, relocated them to Cochin, converted to a syncretic Christian church that considered Jesus to be the Fifth Buddha Maitreya, and started a massive Chinese Empire that eventually stretched from India to North Africa. I've done several games in the Indian region, and while I enjoyed all of them so far, the "foreign migrants in Deccan" one was definitely the most satisfying.

I'm thinking of trying that again, but the Han suck right now, so instead I'm leaning towards a Mongol or Turkic migration, for horse archers.

If you have experience in the northeastern region, what characters and cultures are fun to use? I'd like someone who's just strong enough to migrate into India, who has access to horse archers, and who can easily and naturally cut ties with the northern provinces once he's there. Preferably from the Mongolic group, cuz Mongols are BA and I like their culture map color, but Uyghurs work too.


Currently I'm leaning towards:
King Boqot of Qocho (Uyghurs were my favorite NE culture in CK2, but I don't like his sigil and he's feudal so early expansion might be harder)
Count Gunes of Luntai (cooler sigil than Bogot)
Duke Menge of Slenga Valley ( is vassal to an empire, so may be a headache splitting the realm once I get to India)
Count Tuyan of Kumkol (weak but seems easy to get culture head)

Any suggestions are appreciated.

[Xef]

Just a word of warning if you're going with the mongol empire: Apparently once the mongol invasion starts that title will get instantly usurped. It'll probably be fixed eventually but that's something to watch out for now.

[CrUsHeR]

Generally i would not recommend playing a mongolic character specifically.

Because if the real Gengis Khan spawns from the year 1200+ event, he will usurp your Mongol Empire.

Also the nomads are tribal, and have zero in common with neither the flavor of the CK2 nomads nor the historical nomads. Probably gonna have to wait for a DLC to make this worthwhile.

There also is no decision to "settle as feudal", meaning you have to adopt the local culture if you ever want to migrate anywhere.

[Kuromiya]

I'm NOT looking to create the Mongol Empire. I want to leave the steppes ASAP and focus solely on seizing titles in India. (in CK2, I did it by claim-hopping down to weak Bengal provinces, which I assume will still work)

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

There also is no decision to "settle as feudal", meaning you have to adopt the local culture if you ever want to migrate anywhere.

Is "settle as feudal" still a thing? My understanding was that Mongol tribes acted just like Norse tribes, and the only requirement for civilizing yourself was having enough Tribal Authority and an organized religion (since many Mongolic characters start as Buddhist already, this shouldn't be a problem).

Is feudal gated by culture, too?

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by KickySonichu:

Is "settle as feudal" still a thing? My understanding was that Mongol tribes acted just like Norse tribes, and the only requirement for civilizing yourself was having enough Tribal Authority and an organized religion (since many Mongolic characters start as Buddhist already, this shouldn't be a problem).

Is feudal gated by culture, too?

No the plain "settle as feudal" decision from CK2's Horse Lords does not exist in CK3 (yet), that's why i am pointing that out.

You can totally settle down in any land you invade, and you can also have feudal counties as your capital without penalties (but you cannot upgrade or build new holdings).

However to actually adopt the feudal/clan government, you need to have all the cultural innovations of the tribal era unlocked. So you are still looking at 150-200 years of research following a 867 tribal start. And the thing that really really sucks is that your vassals in such a realm will all be feudal, with you as the only tribal.

The only shortcut here is to adopt the local culture, though that does sort of defeat the purpose of starting as nomad.

[Kuromiya]

I'd be fine staying as tribal for a century or two. Or at least, I THINK I would be fine - afaik Mongolic cultures can't raid overseas, and not being able to raid overseas as a Tribal might get boring after awhile.

I'm planning on culture flipping a bunch of states once I get down to India; if my capital is feudal AND my own culture, will that allow me to "adopt local culture"?

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by KickySonichu:

I'd be fine staying as tribal for a century or two. Or at least, I THINK I would be fine - afaik Mongolic cultures can't raid overseas, and not being able to raid overseas as a Tribal might get boring after awhile.

I'm planning on culture flipping a bunch of states once I get down to India; if my capital is feudal AND my own culture, will that allow me to "adopt local culture"?

No, if you convert your feudal capital's county to your own culture, you lost the opportunity of adopting the culture to skip the research. Until you move to a different capital with your next ruler, at least.

The only advantage is that you take over much higher developed counties, which speeds up the research a little. But all your old tribal counties are still dragging it down massively, since your innovation progress depends on the average development in all counties of your culture.

[Gespenst Gaming]

There is a small han culture in the far middle east. i've done a few games as them trying to conquer the empire of tibet but it's hard cause tibet is the largest empire in the game.