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ste Oct 11, 2020 @ 5:43pm
Educating your own child
Sometimes theres no good options, and the amount of stress involved, and in the end comes out worse than a kid you gave to someone else to watch
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Mikey Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:08pm 
The options are all based on the base trait, which is selected randomly

All it does is give you an option to shape your ward in a given direction. If you don't think the stress is worth the effort, dont educate the child.
Last edited by Mikey; Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:09pm
CrUsHeR Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:14pm 
It can't be possibly worse than letting someone else educate the child, because then you have 0 influence.
The Former Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
It can't be possibly worse than letting someone else educate the child, because then you have 0 influence.

It can if someone else has insane Learning and yours is like 3. :)
Jeza Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:38pm 
Originally posted by Knight-Errant:
Originally posted by CrUsHeR:
It can't be possibly worse than letting someone else educate the child, because then you have 0 influence.

It can if someone else has insane Learning and yours is like 3. :)

Not at all :p

For one we're talking about the personality your child will have not the level of his education trait and that has nothing to do with the learning skill of the mentor ;)

For another even regarding the education trait the level of learning skill of the mentor is the least important of all the factors involved.
Having a genius mentor beats most everything else, then comes the level of the skill related to your child's focus and only last the learning skill.
Well of course in this case if you child's focus is learning you would be right for the education trait at least :D
The Former Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:40pm 
That's true. It's usually safer to risk the stress, particularly if you have a son who has 9 base Martial and you don't want him ending up as an ambitious pretender who tries to steal your heir's throne.
Lovecraft's Cat Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:47pm 
If you want your kid to have a good education, you can look for guardians with the genius trait or who have a good education level in the desired field. But yeah, you won't have an influence regarding personality traits.

Sometimes it can even be helpful to give your kids bad traits. They are your heir's rivals, after all. My second born Franco for example, he is pretty smart, but Franco's a child, and when it comes to the day of the contest, I am his father. He comes to me for advices. So it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices.
ste Oct 11, 2020 @ 6:57pm 
I got 37 learning, and 20s all over,I ended up with 2 star lazy, arbitrary, sadist, with 5 and 6s. And that was picking the best ones, and constantly trying to watch the stress. And I'm sure they were born comely and that went as well.. Meanwhile all the other kids I gave to other people ended up great. The other times Ive done my own ended up badly as well
Can'tTouchThis Oct 11, 2020 @ 7:15pm 
Either the education trait is the only thing that matters on the mentor or i really don't get what it is, you can have the best character, amazing learning, high stats across the board and your kids only ever get the option of gluttonous, impatient or shy. Paradox definitely need to sort out the education system in the game.
Sentient_Toaster Oct 11, 2020 @ 11:35pm 
Originally posted by ste:
I got 37 learning, and 20s all over,I ended up with 2 star lazy, arbitrary, sadist, with 5 and 6s. And that was picking the best ones, and constantly trying to watch the stress. And I'm sure they were born comely and that went as well.. Meanwhile all the other kids I gave to other people ended up great. The other times Ive done my own ended up badly as well

Sadist is a fantastic trait to have. ;) Intrigue, prowess, dread, stress relief from executing prisoners...
Jeza Oct 12, 2020 @ 3:22am 
Originally posted by 40-1Can'tTouchThis:
Either the education trait is the only thing that matters on the mentor or i really don't get what it is, you can have the best character, amazing learning, high stats across the board and your kids only ever get the option of gluttonous, impatient or shy. Paradox definitely need to sort out the education system in the game.

You got it, the mentor only matters for the education trait, the rest has nothing to do with him/her.

The stats are randomly added every year at the kid's birthday
Usually 0 to 3 skill points are randomly distributed, it might be higher sometimes but I've never seen more than 3.
This starts at the first birthday and continues up to 16 mentor or no mentor.
Unless the mentor has some perks that makes him randomly add some skill points to his wards, though I'm not sure if that perk works on the AI ? But otherwise the mentor has no influence on skill gain and the distribution is random.

And as for the personality traits I've not seen anything that let's me think the mentor has anything to do with the outcome. I also know that the random events that give a new trait to your kid and let you decide if you keep it or change it is semi random.
The game will make an even happen on the background to give a you a choice of 3 traits, no matter how many times you reload a save made after that event started you always get the same 3 traits as a choice but they're not in the same order. Said your kid is bullied you can choose between vengeful, shy and craven it'll always be those 3 but the one that is given for "free" will not be the same nor the order of the other 2.
If you reload a save far enough that the event hadn't started you will get something different.
Сааребас Oct 12, 2020 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Knight-Errant:
That's true. It's usually safer to risk the stress, particularly if you have a son who has 9 base Martial and you don't want him ending up as an ambitious pretender who tries to steal your heir's throne.

Why do I have the feeling this example is given from your personal experience :D?
Mikey Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:11am 
Originally posted by ste:
I got 37 learning, and 20s all over,I ended up with 2 star lazy, arbitrary, sadist, with 5 and 6s. And that was picking the best ones, and constantly trying to watch the stress. And I'm sure they were born comely and that went as well.. Meanwhile all the other kids I gave to other people ended up great. The other times Ive done my own ended up badly as well

You need to choose an education for the child which complements their basic personality (rowdy, bossy, charming etc). Each of them have 2 educations they are benificial for and 1-2 that they are detrimental for. With benefits the chance of a good final education trait is increased.
ste Oct 12, 2020 @ 6:53am 
I do do that. I never go against their 2 choices.
Jeza Oct 12, 2020 @ 8:23am 
the choices you

Originally posted by Mikey:

You need to choose an education for the child which complements their basic personality (rowdy, bossy, charming etc). Each of them have 2 educations they are benificial for and 1-2 that they are detrimental for. With benefits the chance of a good final education trait is increased.

That only matters for the level of education trait you gain at the end, not the personality of your child which is the matter here :)
Сааребас Oct 12, 2020 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Jeza:
the choices you

Originally posted by Mikey:

You need to choose an education for the child which complements their basic personality (rowdy, bossy, charming etc). Each of them have 2 educations they are benificial for and 1-2 that they are detrimental for. With benefits the chance of a good final education trait is increased.

That only matters for the level of education trait you gain at the end, not the personality of your child which is the matter here :)
Sorry dude but you are in the wrong here.
e.g. You will not get rowdy UNLESS you pick martial.
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