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Marabu Oct 7, 2020 @ 10:53am
Ransom seems broken
I just wanted to get my ransom money from my prisoners.
I was getting 100 gold for each prisoner, when the popup clearly said 300.
Anyone else can confirm this?
Last edited by Marabu; Oct 7, 2020 @ 11:08am
Originally posted by Ralek:
This bug is definitely related to the selling hooks perk and is definitely a bug.

Basically, the developers thought it would be nice to save you the hassle of ransoming for hooks and then selling the hooks by combining it but forgot to save the actual money in the ransom amount variable.

What you see in the ransom window is how much you'd get for the hook, but when you actually get paid you only receive what you'd receive for a normal ransom. To get around it for now, just ransom for the hook and then sell the hook.
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ochris79 Oct 8, 2020 @ 12:35pm 
Yep .... it is unpredictable and completely non-transparent what kind of ransom you really get in the end.

Completely bent. And it's definitely NOT because the characters have too little gold.

I checked this especially and the character screen showed 645 gold ... 300 gold should be ransom money. 30 gold was transferred and I saw that the character still had 615 gold left.

Unbelievable how you can miss such cheap bugs. Obviously there was no quality control at all!
salatrin Oct 8, 2020 @ 12:39pm 
Personally i think the 1.1 patch broke it because as far as i can tell, before the big recent patch, if i was ransoming a guy for 50 gold, id get the full 50 but the popup would say they paid me 7

The recent patch was supposed to fix that popup and, it has, but now it seems to be in reverse, the popup message says he paid the full 50 but only gave me 7

And it seems random too, i can have 5 prisoners all being ransomed for 50 and 2 of them will give me the full 50 and the other 3 will give me 5-10 each while still saying 50 each in the message popup
Last edited by salatrin; Oct 8, 2020 @ 12:39pm
Marabu Oct 9, 2020 @ 3:22am 
Ok, it is confirmed then, needs to be fixed.
The Blind One Oct 9, 2020 @ 3:33am 
This bug seems to happen when you try to ransom somebody that isn't actually worth the 50 gold in game-terms.

50 gold is usually ransomed for a count/heirs, but you will find that you are not getting the 50 gold ransom on guys that arn't counts/heirs yet somehow these rando courtiers are ransomable for 50 gold. They should at best be only giving you 10 gold, and it is probably likely that you are receiving this amount. However don't forget that if you are at war, you can be bleeding a lot of gold every month as well, so by the time you look again, you might have gotten only 7 gold (-3 gold for monthly maintenance, for example).

I noticed a lot of guys should have given me 50 gold but they only gave me something like a few gold ... then I looked into what guys got ransomed and how much the game normally offers and it seems to be that randos get assigned the 50 gold value in the UI but the game still treats them as if they are worth what they are supposed to be worth so its a UI problem and the player only looking at the expected gold return. You greedy bastards!
Azunai Oct 9, 2020 @ 4:27am 
might be related to the messed up steawrdship perk that allows you to take cash for hooks. after you unlock that, all ransom offers show 300 gold even if it's just some random courtier who would normally be worth 10 gold.

maybe the game just shows the wrong number but actually subtracts the proper number.
Mindmaker Oct 9, 2020 @ 4:30am 
If you ransom a character and the character paying the ransom spends all his gold in the meantime, you only get what gold he has left.
He could also lose his title in the meantime (getting downgraded from duke to count) which would also mean you get a reduced amount.

It's not broken per se.
ste Oct 9, 2020 @ 4:31am 
I think the payments are right, just how much they say you will get is wrong. If you did get the actual amount it would be a bit too easy
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Ralek Oct 9, 2020 @ 7:38am 
This bug is definitely related to the selling hooks perk and is definitely a bug.

Basically, the developers thought it would be nice to save you the hassle of ransoming for hooks and then selling the hooks by combining it but forgot to save the actual money in the ransom amount variable.

What you see in the ransom window is how much you'd get for the hook, but when you actually get paid you only receive what you'd receive for a normal ransom. To get around it for now, just ransom for the hook and then sell the hook.
Marabu Oct 9, 2020 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by Ralek:
This bug is definitely related to the selling hooks perk and is definitely a bug.

Basically, the developers thought it would be nice to save you the hassle of ransoming for hooks and then selling the hooks by combining it but forgot to save the actual money in the ransom amount variable.

What you see in the ransom window is how much you'd get for the hook, but when you actually get paid you only receive what you'd receive for a normal ransom. To get around it for now, just ransom for the hook and then sell the hook.

That seems to be the case. I have the trait 'golden obligations'.
Noided [SE] Nov 11, 2020 @ 1:33pm 
Per 2020-11-11 the bug is still alive and well! Thanks Paradox for all the money Im not getting!
CrUsHeR Nov 11, 2020 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Noided SE:
Per 2020-11-11 the bug is still alive and well! Thanks Paradox for all the money Im not getting!

Did you actually read what the problem is?

You need to "ransom for a favor", then demand payment. You'll get the displayed sum.

These are the actual values of ransom, so the amount you receive if you ransom directly for money is correct:

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Court#Ransom

So a courtier is worth 10g, mayor 30g, and so on. How much you get for demanding payments probably depends on your dynasty fame or ruler tier, starting with 50g and going up to 300g during the game.



Two things to note, not related to this bug but favor payments in general:

1) you cannot demand payment from a character you are directly at war with (incl. all crusade participants / defenders)

2) you cannot demand payment from someone out of diplomatic range, so you may have to check if the liege of a prisoner can be interacted with
Last edited by CrUsHeR; Nov 11, 2020 @ 2:30pm
Ludhman Nov 12, 2020 @ 8:10am 
WAKE UP PARADOX !!!! FIX THE BUG !!!
brettossman Dec 8, 2021 @ 1:49am 
Still having issue as of December 2021. Did not receive about 500.
Marabu Dec 8, 2021 @ 4:44am 
Wow, still not fixed?
chebonaparte Dec 8, 2021 @ 4:13pm 
in earlier game I could get paid 200 gold per head! now I only get 20 gold:steamfacepalm:
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