Allied army doesn't stick with me?

[Dionysus 🐭]

I am in a faction war to decrease crown authority, and yet the allied armies don't stick with me (the war leader). How do I make combine the armies? We have already lost 10k troops because of this, and have a good chance of loosing the war if I can't find some way to make these ♥♥♥♥♥ stick in one army.

[GorishiDan]

There is no guaranted way of doing that. The AI is already dumb as it is regarding combat and ive heard the new stack thing that was added made them a bit buggier being confused on whether to join a battle or stand idly by. You can try finding their strongest stack and get your army in the same county they are, pause the game, and click to link it. Your army will follow them then. If they have a higher number of troops together they should engage the enemy on their own.

[Dionysus 🐭]

Originally posted by Dan_xGorishi:

There is no guaranted way of doing that. The AI is already dumb as it is regarding combat and ive heard the new stack thing that was added made them a bit buggier being confused on whether to join a battle or stand idly by. You can try finding their strongest stack and get your army in the same county they are, pause the game, and click to link it. Your army will follow them then. If they have a higher number of troops together they should engage the enemy on their own.

I want to link their army to mine, not mine to theirs. But either way, it doesn't even let me click on their army. Too late now, the war is already lost because of this ♥♥♥♥, even though I started out with 10k more troops than my liege. This system is totally ♥♥♥♥, and even makes the game unplayable at points.

[GorishiDan]

I feel your frustration. But yea if there was a way to request your allies to link their army to yours it would be a game changer, really.

[Al120]

My guess is they're against the notion allowing AI armies attach to your main, is you could just partner with any high 80k empire with your 20k troops and basically you just got 100k free troops you can direct to stomp any and all forces with ease. That's not even counting potential mecenaries you could field.

[Dionysus 🐭]

Originally posted by Al120:

My guess is they're against the notion allowing AI armies attach to your main, is you could just partner with any high 80k empire with your 20k troops and basically you just got 100k free troops you can direct to stomp any and all forces with ease. That's not even counting potential mecenaries you could field.

Well that is the point of allying isn't it? To gain that other empires military power? Not to mention they put in place countermeasures so that you aren't able to ally with an empire that has a lot more military power than you do. So your example doesn't even make sense either way.

[Al120]

Originally posted by aaronth07:

Originally posted by Al120:

My guess is they're against the notion allowing AI armies attach to your main, is you could just partner with any high 80k empire with your 20k troops and basically you just got 100k free troops you can direct to stomp any and all forces with ease. That's not even counting potential mecenaries you could field.

Well that is the point of allying isn't it? To gain that other empires military power? Not to mention they put in place countermeasures so that you aren't able to ally with an empire that has a lot more military power than you do. So your example doesn't even make sense either way.

Well the point is to have backup, not an entire free army at your will if they are indeed not your army after all. Granted A.I issues aside, if they worked as intended they basically could just cover you as you continue to advance, back you up if you get outnumbered, help seige or guard you while you seige that sort of thing, they're allies not pawns in the ideal scenario.

Edit: Also not sure exactly what you're talking about, considering I literally used my very situation as an example. http://prntscr.com/vtb514

[Dionysus 🐭]

Originally posted by Al120:

Originally posted by aaronth07:

Well that is the point of allying isn't it? To gain that other empires military power? Not to mention they put in place countermeasures so that you aren't able to ally with an empire that has a lot more military power than you do. So your example doesn't even make sense either way.

Well the point is to have backup, not an entire free army at your will if they are indeed not your army after all. Granted A.I issues aside, if they worked as intended they basically could just cover you as you continue to advance, back you up if you get outnumbered, help seige or guard you while you seige that sort of thing, they're allies not pawns in the ideal scenario.

Edit: Also not sure exactly what you're talking about, considering I literally used my very situation as an example. http://prntscr.com/vtb514

I'm saying that they would never accept that without some reason to. Like marriage, or scheming to fabricate a hook so that they accept. You make it sound like you can just go up to any random empire who is stronger than you and force them into an alliance.

[Al120]

Originally posted by aaronth07:

Originally posted by Al120:

Well the point is to have backup, not an entire free army at your will if they are indeed not your army after all. Granted A.I issues aside, if they worked as intended they basically could just cover you as you continue to advance, back you up if you get outnumbered, help seige or guard you while you seige that sort of thing, they're allies not pawns in the ideal scenario.

Edit: Also not sure exactly what you're talking about, considering I literally used my very situation as an example. http://prntscr.com/vtb514

I'm saying that they would never accept that without some reason to. Like marriage, or scheming to fabricate a hook so that they accept. You make it sound like you can just go up to any random empire who is stronger than you and force them into an alliance.

I mean he had all the reason not to, all I did was just change my religon's views on Islam which still made them hostile. I'm not even an empire despite having having 3 Kingdoms so I'm not even on his level. He's also squatting in territory after toppling england that I now surround part of his duchy, if he wanted he could just say no if had any plans of conquring the rest of the isle but apparently he doesn't at least for now. I had no Hook, as just recently got this new ruler as his Father died of stress, and his Father's father basically assicanated this guy's father and a couple uncles and HIS Grandfather.Though only one of those murders got back to him.

The only reason I can see him doing it is well he has alot of spare children, that empire's in Primo so none of those other heirs are gonna get anything anyway so he's probaly pretty chill with that.

[Dionysus 🐭]

Honestly, this mechanic is just ♥♥♥♥. I can have over double the enemies' army size when counting my alliances, and still lose because the stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI WILL NOT STICK WITH ME, and instead decides to split their armies up into stacks of 2k for the enemy to roll over and generate warscore. It's just horrible. Is there anything I can do? Like a mod to fix this?

[Al120]

Originally posted by aaronth07:

Honestly, this mechanic is just ♥♥♥♥. I can have over double the enemies' army size when counting my alliances, and still lose because the stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI WILL NOT STICK WITH ME, and instead decides to split their armies up into stacks of 2k for the enemy to roll over and generate warscore. It's just horrible. Is there anything I can do? Like a mod to fix this?

AI does seem to be giving lots of users problems so I won't discount your issue. Maybe there is a mod, but I'll ask. If your loosing 2 to 1 on a regular basis, have you checked your army composition? Have you invested in good spread of men at arms that can counter other troops? Has your opposing rivals done so themselves or are they sending mostly levy fodder?

Have you speced in the Martial Tree? Getting the stratageist tree down can make an army outnumbered pretty well capable, though keep in mind it's possible your enemy also could of speced in the Martial Tree as well making them very potent than they other wise seem.

[Dionysus 🐭]

Originally posted by Al120:

Originally posted by aaronth07:

Honestly, this mechanic is just ♥♥♥♥. I can have over double the enemies' army size when counting my alliances, and still lose because the stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ AI WILL NOT STICK WITH ME, and instead decides to split their armies up into stacks of 2k for the enemy to roll over and generate warscore. It's just horrible. Is there anything I can do? Like a mod to fix this?

AI does seem to be giving lots of users problems so I won't discount your issue. Maybe there is a mod, but I'll ask. If your loosing 2 to 1 on a regular basis, have you checked your army composition? Have you invested in good spread of men at arms that can counter other troops? Has your opposing rivals done so themselves or are they sending mostly levy fodder?

Have you speced in the Martial Tree? Getting the stratageist tree down can make an army outnumbered pretty well capable, though keep in mind it's possible your enemy also could of speced in the Martial Tree as well making them very potent than they other wise seem.

You don't understand. I'm not complaining about losing a 20k army to a 10k army. I mean that in total, I have 20k and the enemies have 10k worth of soldiers, including alliances. That doesn't mean it's in 1 army, it means that my stupid allies will all split up their 2k - 4k armies so the enemy can wipe over them, because there isn't any way to actually group up all allies so I can have that 20k army.