Designate Heir Doesn't change succession?

[ENGLISHNAME]

Any reasons why this is? A bug maybe?

[someblk]

That function is to designate the player heir (the character you will be once your current character dies). It doesn't change where your titles go.

[GorishiDan]

Originally posted by someblk:

That function is to designate the player heir (the character you will be once your current character dies). It doesn't change where your titles go.

it does? i assume he's talking about the ability to designate an heir when you have absolute crown authority, that gives the selected character all the titles when the former ruler dies, or am i mistaken?

[someblk]

Originally posted by Dan <3 Queen Chryssie:

Originally posted by someblk:

That function is to designate the player heir (the character you will be once your current character dies). It doesn't change where your titles go.

it does? i assume he's talking about the ability to designate an heir when you have absolute crown authority, that gives the selected character all the titles when the former ruler dies, or am i mistaken?

Hmm well... I had the exact same confusion a few weeks ago (I expected designate heir to change where my titles would go, but it didn't work for me when I used it), and when I looked it up the info I got was as above (think it might have been Reddit? That's before I started just asking questions myself on here). So if it is a bug (rather than by design) then it's been around since before the 1.1 update, and I've taken misinformation as being correct.

[Zaidah]

Designated heir doesn't change how succession works. If you have 3 sons and choose the 3rd one to be your heir with the partition succession, it only means that you'll be playing as your 3rd son and thus he will get your capitale and main title, but other titles might be split amongst your brother anyway.
Unless you already gave some land to some of your other sons, but if not, choosing your heir won't affect how your realm will split on succession if you have partition.

[The Blind One]

I don't know what you guys are talking about.

If you Designate an Heir that Designated character becomes your primary heir and the previous primary heir will become a secondary heir like every other child.

If you had 3 sons for example, and you designated the 3rd as your Designated Heir then the 3rd Son will become the Player Heir while the firstborn will be treated like a secondary heir.

Your third son would get all the titles that the firstborn would have gotten. So if you were a King, he would get the primary king title, the primary dutchy title, the capital and any associated counties that would be given to your first born.

(mind you, if you designate another child as your primary, that does not mean that your primary heir doesn't get any titles. He will be treated like a second son in terms of inheritance, so you may have to fiddle around a bit to get the proper titles setup)

Works fine for me.

I've been designating my heirs for the past 3 successions and my designated heir got all the titles that the firstborn would have gotten.

[Zaidah]

Haha we gave the same answer (kind of), you explained it better though.

[The Blind One]

Originally posted by Zaidah:

Haha we gave the same answer (kind of), you explained it better though.

Yeah you're right, after re-reading your comment I get what you were saying.

[GorishiDan]

Ah, okay, i see, so you'd have to not only have the ability to designate an heir but also change succession law to single heir, either primo or ultimogeniture to have a desired character (if he/she's in middle of the age range and is neither the oldest or youngest) inherit every single title of yours, right?

[Zaidah]

Originally posted by Dan <3 Queen Chryssie:

Ah, okay, i see, so you'd have to not only have the ability to designate an heir but also change succession law to single heir, either primo or ultimogeniture to have a desired character (if he/she's in middle of the age range and is neither the oldest or youngest) inherit every single title of yours, right?

That's it. Since primo/ultimo only allow 1 heir, you can choose who will be the primary heir, thus who will inherit everything.

[The Blind One]

Designate Heir only changes who the game treats as your first born in essence or better known as the Primary Heir. It doesn't change the partition rules of titles itself. Partition is still partition but at least you can decide who the primary heir is in that case.

[ENGLISHNAME]

Originally posted by The Blind One:

Designate Heir only changes who the game treats as your first born in essence or better known as the Primary Heir. It doesn't change the partition rules of titles itself. Partition is still partition but at least you can decide who the primary heir is in that case.

I'm using House Seniority, is this why it doesn't work?

[The Blind One]

Originally posted by ENGLISHNAME:

Originally posted by The Blind One:

Designate Heir only changes who the game treats as your first born in essence or better known as the Primary Heir. It doesn't change the partition rules of titles itself. Partition is still partition but at least you can decide who the primary heir is in that case.

I'm using House Seniority, is this why it doesn't work?

Yep I would guess so. (there's also a lot of buggyness with house seniority I heard)

House Seniority means that the oldest living member becomes ruler if I am not mistaken, so that means none of your children are actually your primary heir. So designating heir is useless because it ALWAYS is the oldest member ...

That actually makes me wonder what happens when you die with house seniority. Do your children still get partition inheritances? Or does it all go to the Senior house member?

[ENGLISHNAME]

Originally posted by The Blind One:

Originally posted by ENGLISHNAME:

I'm using House Seniority, is this why it doesn't work?

Yep I would guess so. (there's also a lot of buggyness with house seniority I heard)

House Seniority means that the oldest living member becomes ruler if I am not mistaken, so that means none of your children are actually your primary heir. So designating heir is useless because it ALWAYS is the oldest member ...

That actually makes me wonder what happens when you die with house seniority. Do your children still get partition inheritances? Or does it all go to the Senior house member?

Shouldnt Designate Heir, in theory, supersede the house seniority rules? Or am I misunderstanding. Is this a bug or intended?

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by The Blind One:

That actually makes me wonder what happens when you die with house seniority. Do your children still get partition inheritances? Or does it all go to the Senior house member?

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Laws#Realm_Succession

Supposedly your kids don't get anything. You still can grant them titles, though.

I never tried it because that is simply the worst succession. You only play guys at the age of 50-80 who could die any minute, so you never get to see the interesting stages of a character's life. Also short reign penalty, unhappy vassals, etc.

[Azunai]

i think heir designation works pretty similar to how it worked in CK2 (buddhists had it by default and you could also unlock it for custom reformed pagans).

it doesn't work for seniority and it also doesn't work for elective titles.