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And, if you are curious, the Duchy of Neustria won't become Normandy until a decision is taken, but only Norse characters that fully control the Duchy can take it.
https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/List_of_kingdoms
That I didn't know, thanks for helping. But, does the HRE ever form in the 867 start (without player intervention)? In all my games, East Francia and Lotharingia always gets conquered by norsemen.