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Float07 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:26pm
What's the point on helping an ally in a war?
So... I think the title says it all. Why should I help? By what I understand I can just accept and do nothing or just straight of decline. What are the benefits of helping someone in a war?

Thanks :)
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Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Prestige, fame, and a way to kill off unwanted sons or vassals. You can also do it from a roleplay aspect.
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RIPDixie1865 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:35pm 
Prestige, fame, and a way to kill off unwanted sons or vassals. You can also do it from a roleplay aspect.
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Float07 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:36pm 
Oh cool... Makes sense. Thanks :)
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RIPDixie1865 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:38pm 
Also, thinking strategically, if you are called in against a lord that you plan on making war on yourself it may be a good idea to use your ally's war to weaken him. Typically you won't sign a truce with them upon peace so you will be free to declare your own war on that same lord.
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Twelvefield Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:43pm 
If you decline you take a hit on opinion, and if you don't do anything the ally will demand that you act or chicken out.
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Float07 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Also, thinking strategically, if you are called in against a lord that you plan on making war on yourself it may be a good idea to use your ally's war to weaken him. Typically you won't sign a truce with them upon peace so you will be free to declare your own war on that same lord.
Yeah that also sounds helpful



Originally posted by Twelvefield:
If you decline you take a hit on opinion, and if you don't do anything the ally will demand that you act or chicken out.
Really? I accepted 4 wars and did nothing and everything went well. Guess I was lucky
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RIPDixie1865 Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by Float07:
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Also, thinking strategically, if you are called in against a lord that you plan on making war on yourself it may be a good idea to use your ally's war to weaken him. Typically you won't sign a truce with them upon peace so you will be free to declare your own war on that same lord.
Yeah that also sounds helpful



Originally posted by Twelvefield:
If you decline you take a hit on opinion, and if you don't do anything the ally will demand that you act or chicken out.
Really? I accepted 4 wars and did nothing and everything went well. Guess I was lucky
The allies will only scold you for not helping if they are losing for an extended period. At least from my experience
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Fenris Sep 18, 2020 @ 6:50pm 
Keeping a ally nearby alive but not close enough to want your future lands is always nice too. So you have someone to call in to press your claims. I join every war I can in the early game just so I can take over counties for the loot, 10 to 25 gold per siege going into your "bank account" adds up.
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Ihateeverybody Sep 18, 2020 @ 7:08pm 
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Originally posted by Float07:
Yeah that also sounds helpful




Really? I accepted 4 wars and did nothing and everything went well. Guess I was lucky
The allies will only scold you for not helping if they are losing for an extended period. At least from my experience

Wait...Can you do that to them? Seriously I have had instances where they followed me around and did not join the battles (even though we outnumbered the foe Just with my own army (I was trying to eliminate armies before they linked up....They linked up and my Ally with 2 armies right next to me just kept shuffling back and forth).
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RIPDixie1865 Sep 18, 2020 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
The allies will only scold you for not helping if they are losing for an extended period. At least from my experience

Wait...Can you do that to them? Seriously I have had instances where they followed me around and did not join the battles (even though we outnumbered the foe Just with my own army (I was trying to eliminate armies before they linked up....They linked up and my Ally with 2 armies right next to me just kept shuffling back and forth).
No. Sadly you cannot punish them for not helping you. I would expect there to be a feature in an upcoming patch that allows you to tell allies to attach to certain armies like in CK2. No reason for it not to have been a feature already in CK3, but...Paradox
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Twelvefield Sep 18, 2020 @ 10:56pm 
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Originally posted by Float07:
Yeah that also sounds helpful




Really? I accepted 4 wars and did nothing and everything went well. Guess I was lucky
The allies will only scold you for not helping if they are losing for an extended period. At least from my experience


I thought it might be a timer. Either way, things have to go poorly for your ally for quite sometime. All you have to do is take one potshot and you're golden, like the USS Cerritos in the title sequence for Lower Decks.
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Natius Sep 18, 2020 @ 11:23pm 
Get Prisoner, War end, See which prisoner have good stat, then recruit them
Profit
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Frank Scalise Sep 18, 2020 @ 11:59pm 
What happens if, as an emperor, I declare war on another empire in support of a claimant? Meaning, if we win, will the new empire be merged with mine? Allied? Or just have a new emperor who presumably likes me for helping him to the purple?
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RIPDixie1865 Sep 19, 2020 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by Frank Scalise:
What happens if, as an emperor, I declare war on another empire in support of a claimant? Meaning, if we win, will the new empire be merged with mine? Allied? Or just have a new emperor who presumably likes me for helping him to the purple?
The claimant will get the title. Unless the title is lesser than your main title, then they will be independent. Only really worth doing if the claimant is of your dynasty as then you can claim their new title and war for it yourself.
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CrUsHeR Sep 19, 2020 @ 3:59am 
Originally posted by RIPDixie1865:
Originally posted by Float07:
Yeah that also sounds helpful




Really? I accepted 4 wars and did nothing and everything went well. Guess I was lucky
The allies will only scold you for not helping if they are losing for an extended period. At least from my experience

The scolding triggers an event - if you don't reach 100% participation after 1 year, you lose an entire level of fame. Similar to declaring war on an ally.
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EA Latium Sep 19, 2020 @ 4:03am 
It's also important to keep the balance of power in a way you prefer, in a geopolitical way.

If you are planning for example to put your Dynasty on a foreign Throne, Alliances are the way to go, so helping them may carry different benefits.

You can also make some profits.
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