Crusader Kings III

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Badben Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:18am
Gift of gold coins is a dumb way to die.
There's an event that can happen where you get a gift of gold coins from someone who hates you, that doesn't give you the option to refuse the gift. All it says is "you run your hands through the gold coins and the room starts spinning" or something along those lines, and then you die.

I've had many gifts sent to me before that I was clever enough to refuse, why not this one? I might understand if your character has terrible intrigue or something, but I have good intrigue, and an extremely loyal spymaster with excellent intrigue. I feel like between the 2 of us we could have figured out that a gift from a neighboring king that hates me might be a trap.

I don't mind unexpected deaths, but this is such a dumb death, it might as well have said "you tripped and drown in a shallow puddle"
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Dayve Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:27am 
I got this event one time but it didn't kill me, it just made me ill for 7 years. I'm guessing the coins are coated in some poison that seeps in through your skin. Maybe your ruler doesn't suspect anything because he gets boxes of gold coins every day from his vassals and stuff?
Crimson Bolt Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:27am 
It's just a flavor event for someone murdering you...they maybe have tons of agents (potentially even your own spymaster) or even better stats than you. Whatever the cause the event can only fill in so much flavor and RP for you when it comes to you getting murdered...a hell of a lot better than just stating you were murdered.

This happened in CK2 a lot as well...mostly as a kid...so it's not unexpected.
CrUsHeR Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:30am 
They had this event pop up several times in the dev stream.

Basically everything the player can do, the AI can do as well. The gold is poisoned, but it doesn't kill you. Just if your health is already very low, you can die from it - same like e.g. getting wounded from the flagellation stress event.
At the very least it might make the murderplot progress.

Otherwise you might get a good treatment from your physician, and get rid of the "not feeling well" debuff.
Tsu Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:37am 
I mean, as far as "poisoned coins" sounds like a dumb way to die - the Breton dude from the CK2 monarch's journey legit died to poisoned hunting gloves, according to historical records.
Dayve Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:42am 
Originally posted by Tsurja:
I mean, as far as "poisoned coins" sounds like a dumb way to die - the Breton dude from the CK2 monarch's journey legit died to poisoned hunting gloves, according to historical records.

Yeah, poison was the most common way to kill people in those days. I wonder how many kings, queens, or future kings or queens, or dukes, or counts, or barons, or even just minor title holders throughout history actually died due to undetected poison plots, and were recorded in the history books as "natural death at age 24."

Almost every count and duke in medieval history had one or two of their children just die at the age of 3, 4, 6, 7, 10 and so on. Half of them could've been poisoned for all we know, by jealous uncles who stood to inherit if they died, or step-mothers who stood to have their own child inherit if they died. We'll never know how common this was.
Hackie P4ckie Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:54am 
I had this with the box of spiders event recently.

It's just that another ruler completed a murder scheme. They already went through the effort of starting the scheme, finding agents and working through the different decisions that progress or hinder it, and they've passed every check required to complete the scheme, so you don't have an option to just refuse them. Otherwise murder schemes would be completely ineffective on players.
Crim Sep 9, 2020 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by Hackie Packie:
I had this with the box of spiders event recently.

It's just that another ruler completed a murder scheme. They already went through the effort of starting the scheme, finding agents and working through the different decisions that progress or hinder it, and they've passed every check required to complete the scheme, so you don't have an option to just refuse them. Otherwise murder schemes would be completely ineffective on players.
Speaking on that
I think the player has some Agency actually

I've noticed that going on Hunts and Feasts when you're widely hated will likely in result in a Murder triggering
Badben Sep 9, 2020 @ 1:04am 
I understand that it's inevitable, I just think they could come up with a more clever way for me to have been fooled. Like a servant put it in my clothes, or a viper in my bed. I just feel like my character wouldn't have fallen for a poisoned box of gold from his enemy.
Was your character Greedy? I thought I saw this with an option to refuse in a stream once.
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Date Posted: Sep 9, 2020 @ 12:18am
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