Seduction

[Blackstar]

The game is great so far but i have encountered one issue that i really hate. Everyone wants to sleep with my wife. 5 Times married with 3 rulers 15 children and about 7 different fathers... any idea what to do about that?

[Bordric]

No but next king make sure your wife likes you, romance her and become soul mates.

[Blackstar]

Thanks for the tip. Sadly it does not worke. Even if i do that right bevore the wedding and my wife has a 100 opinion of me they still cheat.

[Flyan!]

Originally posted by Blackstar:

Thanks for the tip. Sadly it does not worke. Even if i do that right bevore the wedding and my wife has a 100 opinion of me they still cheat.

Some people on another thread were saying how it might just be a bug from the ai trying to fabricate hooks on you. I've had inbred children with the same traits as their parents randomly get disputed heritage from an event, but none of them ever get the bastard trait or anything, and the inbred traits means they couldn't have come from anyone other than my ruler.

[Athos56]

It gets super silly, after a couple years there was so much banging going on everybody in my kingdom had the pox. But what really gets annoying is that the cheating intrigue notifications and popups outnumber all other notifications at least 2 to 1.

[LzDK14]

Originally posted by Blackstar:

The game is great so far but i have encountered one issue that i really hate. Everyone wants to sleep with my wife. 5 Times married with 3 rulers 15 children and about 7 different fathers... any idea what to do about that?

Spoil your taste in women? Obviosly, you select ones that everyone wants to f...k.

[Sentient_Toaster]

I believe that a lot of it is from people using the the fabricate hook scheme to generate Disputed Heritage rather than actual adultery. There's also a known bug where soulmates are not properly resistant to seduction.

That said, there is definitely a lot of bangin' going on, including mother-son and other incest. I mean, when my character's own spouse tearfully confesses to me that she loves her own son in *that* way, it's not from a scheme...

In my current run, I've adapted to this by reforming my faith so that all forms of adultery, same-sex relations, and deviancy are accepted. It's not like those being criminal was actually stopping the adultery, so it's pretty much a "♥♥♥♥ each other, pay me" faith -- as founder with the 'temporal' doctrine I'm now head of faith, and we have communion, so they can keep indulging their carnal passions and then pay me if they feel any guilt about it.

Also, this way, I hopefully don't have to keep choosing between imprisoning vassals (and thus antagonizing their whole family even if I release them immediately) or losing a level of devotion.

[BoydofZINJ]

"soul mates" tend not to sleep around. "sway" your wife then befriend her then "romance" her. Seduce and sex is not the same as romance and friendship.

Most of the people in CK 3 are being married to people to either gain alliances, prestige, a special trait, or some thing other than love. there is no filter to search for a wife that will fall in love with you. Just like real life... YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN EFFORT for that to happen. haha

Women wont "love" you and stay faithful if you only visit them to have an heir and then throw them in the dungeon once you get that heir (or in my case, MURDER schemes seem to happen after i get an heir).

[Saxon]

"Soul mates" and "lovers" with 100+ relationship are still shameless cheaters. I have not observed that to make ANY difference at all so I doubt they even programmed such common sense seduction defences into the game (yet?). There is currently nothing you can do to prevent ANY of your dynasty characters from being bombarded by seduction schemes 24/7. All your spymaster can do is snitch on them after the fact. And boy oh boy does he love spamming me about the fact that no one in the world can keep their pants on for longer than 2 minutes.

You basically have two options:

1. Stop caring who the real father is (while it ruins roleplay and realism/immersion it usually matters little for gameplay).
2. Stop playing.

CK2 had a similar problem immediately when "ways of life" first became a thing. The AI was poorly balanced and would pick seduction schemes way too often. Paradox got so many complaints that they eventually added a special game option which forbade the AI from using it at all. Sadly they haven't learned their lesson and the same history seems to be repeating itself in CK3.

If anyone knows a mod that stops every single character from humping anything that moves I'd love to hear it!

[LzDK14]

Originally posted by SAXON:

"Soul mates" and "lovers" with 100+ relationship are still shameless cheaters. I have not observed that to make ANY difference at all so I doubt they even programmed seduction defence into the game (yet?). There is currently nothing you can do to prevent ANY of your dynasty characters from being bombarded by seduction schemes 24/7. All your spymaster can do is snitch on them after the fact. And boy oh boy does he love spamming me about the fact that no one in the world can keep their pants on for longer than 2 minutes.

You basically have two options:

1. Stop caring who the real father (while it ruins roleplay and realism/immersion it usually matters little for gameplay).
2. Stop playing.

CK2 had a similar problem immediately when "ways of life" first became a thing. The AI was poorly balanced and would pick seduction schemes way too often. Paradox got so many complaints that they eventually added a special game option which forbade the AI from using it at all. Sadly they haven't learned their lesson and the same history seems to be repeating itself in CK3.

If anyone knows a mod that stops every single character from humping anything that moves I'd love to hear it!

Well, what you see now IS REDUCED perfomance. From what I heard it was MUCH, MUCH more common before they balanced it, to the point of playing femail ruler became imposible because of AI constantly trying to seduce your char.

[Nellvan]

Guess I'm lucky that I hadn't had it happen to me yet. And when you got so much unfaithful people around, idk so far I rather like having free imprisonment reasons thrown my way. Gotta agree on that one event resolution though, losing a chunk of piety would be ok, a whole level is a bit harsh.

Originally posted by LzDK14:

playing femail ruler became imposible because of AI constantly trying to seduce your char.

Well that works the other way too. I had a king at about 75, after the wife died he couldn't take a short walk without some lady making a move. First time I've seen the seduction scheme from the other pov, that's funny too when you get to choose what they should do for you. "Well Berta I know you're 63 and the court scholar/physician, but how about you go slay a wolf for me, hm?"

[Blackstar]

Originally posted by SAXON:

"Soul mates" and "lovers" with 100+ relationship are still shameless cheaters. I have not observed that to make ANY difference at all so I doubt they even programmed such common sense seduction defences into the game (yet?). There is currently nothing you can do to prevent ANY of your dynasty characters from being bombarded by seduction schemes 24/7. All your spymaster can do is snitch on them after the fact. And boy oh boy does he love spamming me about the fact that no one in the world can keep their pants on for longer than 2 minutes.

You basically have two options:

1. Stop caring who the real father is (while it ruins roleplay and realism/immersion it usually matters little for gameplay).
2. Stop playing.

CK2 had a similar problem immediately when "ways of life" first became a thing. The AI was poorly balanced and would pick seduction schemes way too often. Paradox got so many complaints that they eventually added a special game option which forbade the AI from using it at all. Sadly they haven't learned their lesson and the same history seems to be repeating itself in CK3.

If anyone knows a mod that stops every single character from humping anything that moves I'd love to hear it!

That was my problem as well. Why wouled a ruler alow a chield to step on the throne if he knew it was not his chield? For me this game is roleplay...

[Admod, the Equivocal]

I really don't like how every intrigue focused person I seem to end up playing has gone down the seduction tree. Like...why dont' I find any going down the torturer tree or super murder tree?

[GoldenTalon]

Yes - really annoying change from CK2.

[archonsod]

Originally posted by Admod, the Equivocal:

I really don't like how every intrigue focused person I seem to end up playing has gone down the seduction tree. Like...why dont' I find any going down the torturer tree or super murder tree?

I suspect because you want them. I meanwhile am trying to raise the ultimate seduction machine only to find out he's spent most of his childhood learning the art of torture. Unfortunately 'open BDSM club' doesn't appear in the kingdom decision list.

[The Former]

I have never had some of the craziness people are talking about, with everyone in the kingdom bedding everyone else and the whole thing being a CW soap opera. I've been playing this game for several hundred hours and the worst I get in a given generation is five or six people with lovers, usually exclusive to one another.

All I can really say about it is that I fish for secrets and come down hard on adulteresses (it's illegal for women under most Christian faiths and I tend to play European lords), and that I'm careful who I pick as a wife.

Characters will absolutely engage in these acts according to their personality!

Honest, humble wives who like you will pretty much never cheat, but arrogant or ambitious wives who smell opportunity will. Arbitrary wives will sometimes have one-night stands with this or that person even if they like you because they do things on a whim.

Make sure you know who you're marrying. Certain traits (Lustful, Arbitrary, Deceitful) are important to avoid if you don't want this happening, as are certain personality types (the two-word combo above traits which dictates how a character acts towards other characters).

Also make sure you know who's in your court. If you keep a bunch of seductive vipers, they'll keep trying until they get your wife. There's also a mod, More Game Options, which allows you to fine-tune this so that only seductive vipers will seduce in the first place, if that's to your liking.