Educating your Ward - Your Attributes

[Patient]

Is the education your ward receives based off of your base attributes, or your base + the buffs given to you by your spouse?

Many thanks

[The Former]

I don't believe so. I think it's based on one, what you choose to specialize them in, and two, whether or not you have a good education trait for that thing. Your stats might affect the odds of giving a good education though, I'm not sure on that. I know the Intelligent trait line does. If you have it, you're a better tutor.

[Patient]

Ah, so your stats don't even factor that much into the education? Mostly just the matching of your education trait, the ward's childhood trait, and the education focus?
Thanks for the help!

[Twelvefield]

Originally posted by Patient Ember:

Ah, so your stats don't even factor that much into the education? Mostly just the matching of your education trait, the ward's childhood trait, and the education focus?
Thanks for the help!

I'm pretty sure that's it, plus RNG.

[CrUsHeR]

The attribute numbers are not important.

The education focus needs to match the child's personality, which increases the chance of obtaining a high grade educational trait. Every personality has 2 matching traits and 1 opposed trait, which is noted in the focus selection.

Also the grade of the guardian's education trait increases the above.

However it is still a random outcome. Last night i inherited with a 0 year old son, instantly made my spymaster my guardian (iirc lvl 4 schemer with 43 intrigue). Still ended up with as amateurish plotter (lvl 1) with 12 intrigue.


The other thing are the personality traits of the guardian. IMHO these are even more important than the education, because these set the frame of what your character can and can't do.

Nice to start with a lvl 4 education, but if the character is a craven, gluttonous, greedy lunatic, you probably don't want to play him.

[Patient]

Thanks for help everyone!

[Toppopia]

In the ingame encyclopedia it says a high education trait is important and if the guardian is Quick or Genius thats good as well. I assume also dont let guardians have bad traits since that could influence events that happen to the children.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

The attribute numbers are not important.

The education focus needs to match the child's personality, which increases the chance of obtaining a high grade educational trait. Every personality has 2 matching traits and 1 opposed trait, which is noted in the focus selection.

They do? Gregarious doesn't seem to have an opposed trait? Or do you mean an opposite? What would be the 2 matching traits for gregarious?

[jfoytek]

Some Examples:

You want Learning for example:
You want a Guardian who is Chaste, Content, Humble, Patient, Shy
Who preferably is already a Mastermind or Astute Intellectual

Of Course Genius Quick Intelligent Genius is always helpful no matter what your teaching

Intrigue for Example:
Lustful, Ambitious, Vengeful, Paranoid, Decietful, Arbitrary
Who are Intricate Webweavers or Elusive Shadows

Marshal
Brave, Wrathful, Diligent, Patient, Zealous
Skilled Tactician or Brilliant Strategist

Steward
Ambitious, Diligent, Just, Temperate, Stubborn
Fortune Builder or Midas Touched

Diplomacy
Calm, Diligent, Gregarious, Honest, Forgiving, Generous
Charismatic Negotiator or Grey Eminence

[Patient]

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Traits#Childhood_traits

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Traits#Education_traits

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Traits#Personality_traits

Maybe these help jpinard?

I don't think gregarious is one of the traits that effects education; basically what I'm getting is you try to match the 1) childhood trait (bossy, charming...) with an education focus (the little button on the portrait of your ward) that hopefully 2) also matches the education trait of the guardian.

If the guardian is not the player character, I'm assuming the npc guardian just selects the education focus that matches best.

Edit: jpinard ignore this, jfoytek's knows what they're talking about

[ShepherdOfCats]

Originally posted by jpinard:

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

The attribute numbers are not important.

The education focus needs to match the child's personality, which increases the chance of obtaining a high grade educational trait. Every personality has 2 matching traits and 1 opposed trait, which is noted in the focus selection.

They do? Gregarious doesn't seem to have an opposed trait? Or do you mean an opposite? What would be the 2 matching traits for gregarious?

Shy I think would be opposite of gregarious which is basically out-going.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by jfoytek:

Of Course Genius Quick Intelligent Genius is always helpful no matter what your teaching

If the Guardian has those traits? Or the child?

[Eddie Latium]

Originally posted by jpinard:

If the Guardian has those traits? Or the child?

The child, but having Genius for the Guardian is very helpful too.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by EA Latium:

Originally posted by jpinard:

If the Guardian has those traits? Or the child?

The child, but having Genius for the Guardian is very helpful too.

For the Guardian... How does that help?

[Eddie Latium]

Originally posted by jpinard:

For the Guardian... How does that help?

I haven't tried it yet, but IIRC they give higher chances for a better Education.

[jpinard]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

The attribute numbers are not important.

The education focus needs to match the child's personality, which increases the chance of obtaining a high grade educational trait. Every personality has 2 matching traits and 1 opposed trait, which is noted in the focus selection.

Also the grade of the guardian's education trait increases the above.

However it is still a random outcome. Last night i inherited with a 0 year old son, instantly made my spymaster my guardian (iirc lvl 4 schemer with 43 intrigue). Still ended up with as amateurish plotter (lvl 1) with 12 intrigue.


The other thing are the personality traits of the guardian. IMHO these are even more important than the education, because these set the frame of what your character can and can't do.

Nice to start with a lvl 4 education, but if the character is a craven, gluttonous, greedy lunatic, you probably don't want to play him.

I'm so confused. On the paradox forums someone said just the opposite. That the trait numbers mattered the most and the rank of the guardian's education trait didn't matter much at all. Do you know which is right for sure?