Nonstop war?

[Midir]

Constantly at war, back to back, can't catch a breathe, the AI seems like it's unnecessarily aggressive, I'll get war dec'd by someone all the way in Scandanavia (I'm Ireland) while I'm already fighting like 4 wars

[TouchMe]

Yeah, it is the same for me, playing in England is literally impossible. My first game I tried playing as a Brittany, and I was getting constantly invaded by Vikings. I am not an expert on CK2 even less so on CK3, but I think they should Nerf the Vikings even if just a little.

[Jaed]

Yes.

I gave up on Ireland and England until I can get the hang of the warfare system a little better. I'm playing as Holland, and being a coastal county near pagans had resulted in a couple game overs still.

However, the current game I have going things are going well and my liege was able to successfully stop any major invasions and loss of land, and we actually have gained land from pagans.

It's just luck of the roll.. Sometimes they invade aggressively, sometimes they focus on other areas to take over. I'm still not entirely sure that I'm safe. I expect at some point there will be a big push by the pagans to take the Frisian coast and I'll likely lose because their invasions are so large.

[goldberg80]

I think its regional. Viking stuff. Does it last a 100 years or it slows down eventually? Maybe places that lack a strong central authority.

My 1066 start game, I'm Duke of Toulouse (southern France). 35 years in, I have had zero war declared on me. I declared and won two wars when the dukes were weak and I could get a claim. France is often at war with England and Holy roman empire. Leon loss two counties to the muslim country south but castille, navarra, and barcelona remains intact.

[TexasDevil]

The best way to win the war, is to kick the guy that is down. You just happen to be the one that everyone wants to kick.

Don't let your power get too low or the vulchers will come peck you over.

[Markus Reese]

There is some scripting it seems for scenario starts. Focus on martial development and levies. Invest in troops that have advantages on your land. Turtle your kingdom, get some allies, and hold on tight!

[Shahadem]

There needs to be a toggle for Viking invasion. It is way out of control and just makes the game unfun.

[The Former]

Get strong alliances and don't get into wars wherever you can help it. The AI strikes when you're weak or distracted. Show strength and they'll think twice.

[Myth Alric]

Yeah if you are in a really bad spot they will start dog piling you. It is also fairly common for no one to declare on you because you are stronger than them, but then when you declare war on someone else they will declare on you and try to third party while your army is distracted.

[TexasDevil]

Originally posted by Myth Alric:

Yeah if you are in a really bad spot they will start dog piling you. It is also fairly common for no one to declare on you because you are stronger than them, but then when you declare war on someone else they will declare on you and try to third party while your army is distracted.

As a Norse player, I look for someone fight someone near me, as soon as they beat each other up, If I can declare war on the loser and beat both of them separately, I jump in, beat up both and take the spoils.

[legions plaything]

Lol that is what the vikings do i have lost a few games in ck like this and almost my newest game in ck3 just try to make alliances it was very hard dont get me wrong but not that crazy

[Al120]

I got bullied by vikings from constant raids. Then war declared and had my lands taken all but two. Wasn't untill later I realized I was an independant Duke next to the Kingdom of Albia. So to them it was just 'Free Real Estate'. Eventually I just got rid of my pride, became a vassal developed my remaining lands formed constant alliances and watched for any weakness in the vikings that took my ♥♥♥♥. Have my allies go half way around the world and fight them, I just seige the territory and try to fend off the stragglers. Eventually I did regain De'jure lands.

[AlexMBrennan]

Get strong alliances and don't get into wars wherever you can help it. The AI strikes when you're weak or distracted. Show strength and they'll think twice.

The issue with that is that they keep grabbing more and more land (e.g. Denmark and Sweden own half of England, because the locals didn't bother to show up for the war or something) so unless you also hoover up duchies left and right they will crush you with numerical superiority.

[Jaed]

Originally posted by AlexMBrennan:

Get strong alliances and don't get into wars wherever you can help it. The AI strikes when you're weak or distracted. Show strength and they'll think twice.

The issue with that is that they keep grabbing more and more land (e.g. Denmark and Sweden own half of England, because the locals didn't bother to show up for the war or something) so unless you also hoover up duchies left and right they will crush you with numerical superiority.

An issue I had even with several very powerful allies was that they were also fighting their own wars with groups of pagans. So we might all be fighting a war together, but we've also each got multiple wars being fought.

I thought allying myself with Alba, Mercia and Moray would help, at one point we even had an alliance with France, and it did help for a while, but it was war after war after war and finally the alliances started breaking down or my allies were pulled back home. I just got tired of the onslaught and wanted to explore the county upgrades in peace for a bit.

It's funny cause in the game I'm playing now, England and Alba slaughtered the vikings and are doing good up there.

[SDxEair]

I think part of the increased aggression is due to a change in how it handles two wars with the same goals. In CK2, when one of the wars ended successfully the others would usually be ended inconclusively, but now the other wars are given the option to continue, putting them at war with the person that just conquered their goal.

I've seen vikings dog-pile on individual counts(separate wars, not allies). If I also attack that count and take it before them, I'm now at war with ALL those vikings; however, if I let one of them win, they're now at war with each other, which is far better for me as it keeps them occupied killing each other for a while.

[TexasDevil]

Originally posted by SDxEair:

I think part of the increased aggression is due to a change in how it handles two wars with the same goals. In CK2, when one of the wars ended successfully the others would usually be ended inconclusively, but now the other wars are given the option to continue, putting them at war with the person that just conquered their goal.

I've seen vikings dog-pile on individual counts(separate wars, not allies). If I also attack that count and take it before them, I'm now at war with ALL those vikings; however, if I let one of them win, they're now at war with each other, which is far better for me as it keeps them occupied killing each other for a while.

This, just when I think I won a war and take their land, another viking, say "I want that also" ah haha *drinking ale* *fighting* and plunder