The coat of arms of Rus and Kiev is a two-headed eagle? This is a spit on history

[Gidaka]

The coat of arms of Rus and Kiev is a two-headed eagle? This is a spit on history

[Pansa]

If your trying to actually make a point perhaps include the correction and a source? Otherwise people will assume you're full of it.

[Daonar]

If by "Rus" you mean Russian Empire, then 2-headed eagle is rather accurate...if we talk about 18-19 centuries. Not for medieval ages, of course.

[kesat]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pansa:

If your trying to actually make a point perhaps include the correction and a source? Otherwise people will assume you're full of it.

The Kievan Rus coat of arms seems to be a trident, representing Yaroslav and his descendants. At least that what i got from a quick search.

/edit:
On the other hand - while it's clearly the domain of the Kievan Rus - it's called Empire of Russia. I guess they pretty much skipped the Kievan Rus and decided to let it base on the coat of arms of Ivan III.

And to be fair: quite a lot of coat of arms in the region don't make any sense. E.g. the County, Duchy and Kingdom of Novgorod all make use of a cross in the coat of arms - despite being non-christian in the early game. Just like the Duchy of Vepsia and the Kingdom of White Rus

Początkowo opublikowane przez Daonar:

If by "Rus" you mean Russian Empire, then 2-headed eagle is rather accurate...if we talk about 18-19 centuries. Not for medieval ages, of course.

Technically - just like mentioned above - the 2-headed eagle was already in use by Ivan III in the 15th century. Still too late for CK though.

[M82]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Gidaka:

The coat of arms of Rus and Kiev is a two-headed eagle? This is a spit on history

You mean the duchy of Kiev and Rus' Empire or the coat of arms of the houses that hold these titles ?

[Daonar]

Well there was no "empire" during the times of Ivan III. Russian Empire was officially founded in 1721, ages after CK timeline. The eagle, though, was indeed adopted as a state banner during his reign under official title of Grand Prince of Rus (not the emperor).

[VoiD]

there isn't a russian empire in any of the dates of CK3 either, but you can change history and create it, no difference from creating the roman empire

[Jurassic]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pansa:

If your trying to actually make a point perhaps include the correction and a source? Otherwise people will assume you're full of it.

do you need source? Well, even the wikipedia knows
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

[corisai]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Jurassic:

do you need source? Well, even the wikipedia knows

Kievan Rus was a kingdom at best and not an empire.

[Mastur Ch33f]

Początkowo opublikowane przez kesat:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Pansa:

If your trying to actually make a point perhaps include the correction and a source? Otherwise people will assume you're full of it.

The Kievan Rus coat of arms seems to be a trident, representing Yaroslav and his descendants. At least that what i got from a quick search.

/edit:
On the other hand - while it's clearly the domain of the Kievan Rus - it's called Empire of Russia. I guess they pretty much skipped the Kievan Rus and decided to let it base on the coat of arms of Ivan III.

And to be fair: quite a lot of coat of arms in the region don't make any sense. E.g. the County, Duchy and Kingdom of Novgorod all make use of a cross in the coat of arms - despite being non-christian in the early game. Just like the Duchy of Vepsia and the Kingdom of White Rus

Początkowo opublikowane przez Daonar:

If by "Rus" you mean Russian Empire, then 2-headed eagle is rather accurate...if we talk about 18-19 centuries. Not for medieval ages, of course.

Technically - just like mentioned above - the 2-headed eagle was already in use by Ivan III in the 15th century. Still too late for CK though.

It was called Rus. Kievan Rus was how the western kingdoms drew it on the maps cause of the capital being in Kiev at that point of time altho Rus was formed way before that

[IKamin]

Totally agree

[Gidaka]

The double-headed eagle has never been in Kievan Rus. You had historical Kievan Rus in CK2 but it was removed and made completely non-historical in CK3! The coat of arms of the Rurikovich was the Trident and not what is in the Game now! You can look at wikipedia for a start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

[Lost Latios]

One year later. By the OP no less... I'm surprised.

[CrUsHeR]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Lost Latios:

One year later.

More relevant now than ever.

Rewritten history (and present) seems to be the only casus belli for the criminal war in the ukraine.

I say that PDX needs to change this title back to the Kievan Rus on the next game update.

[Gidaka]

In this game, Rus was historical and had historical coats of arms, in Rus and among the Ruriks. But for some reason it was removed from CK3. Why?
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Empires

[Gidaka]

I even remind you of the patch that brought the Region of Kievan Rus to historical accuracy in СK2:
https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Patch_3.1.X#Patch_3.1.1

- Renamed a title to Empire of Rus to strengthen the intended connection to the historical Kievan Rus.

But the CK3 developers decided to remove Kievan Rus and instead slipped Russia into it, which did not exist in the Middle Ages!