Newbie dumb question about Domain/Holdings

[RichRuzz]

I did the tutorial and maybe didn't understand this but as the Ireland guy with my claims are they only being vassalized after winning the war based on me using someone else linked to me's claim?

Not sure how you end up with more holdings/income since as I learn everyone is becoming a vassal despite the war conditions.

[baldrick]

If you increase crown authority, you can revoke a vassal's title and take it for yourself (although he might rebel). That's one way of getting more titles. Another is to create them. My Ireland guy is now High King of Ireland with a claim on everything.

[EDIT] Don't forget for more income you can build on your existing holdings.

[RichRuzz]

So basically I make them vassals and gain through tax? So even if I fabricated on my own that has nothing to do with taking the holding for myself?

[baldrick]

The guy you defeated becomes your vassal and it passes down his line but if you murder him and his entire family it passes to you.

[baldrick]

Originally posted by RichRuzz:

So basically I make them vassals and gain through tax? So even if I fabricated on my own that has nothing to do with taking the holding for myself?

Essentially yes. It's like GOT "Bend the knee" and accept me as your rightful liege. You can revoke his title or murder the entire line of inheritance of it as well though to gain direct control.

[RichRuzz]

Originally posted by baldrick:

Originally posted by RichRuzz:

So basically I make them vassals and gain through tax? So even if I fabricated on my own that has nothing to do with taking the holding for myself?

Essentially yes. It's like GOT "Bend the knee" and accept me as your rightful liege. You can revoke his title or murder the entire line of inheritance of it as well though to gain direct control.

But if fabricating a claim does that gain me the holdings? This is what keeps confusing me when I'm making wars for my vassals claims or my own and title creation stuff.

[PJM40]

Originally posted by RichRuzz:

Originally posted by baldrick:

Essentially yes. It's like GOT "Bend the knee" and accept me as your rightful liege. You can revoke his title or murder the entire line of inheritance of it as well though to gain direct control.

But if fabricating a claim does that gain me the holdings? This is what keeps confusing me when I'm making wars for my vassals claims or my own and title creation stuff.

Still Learning too as Ireland, but noticed this. If I fabricated the claim via council, I got the land. I also had a claim given via The Pope, and the conquered land had a vassal (no direct control for me) who hates me and has created a faction.

[Czar Salad]

It has to be your claim used on the casus belli. If you use a different claimant's CB for it, you just install them and vassalize them. You SHOULD get it yourself as long as it's your claim you're pressing, though in CK2 it would sometimes still vassalize them, so idk if something else determines that in the background.

[RichRuzz]

Question being should I be going after any particular holdings for myself rather than vassalizing them?

[drunkenmonkeyau]

Originally posted by RichRuzz:

Question being should I be going after any particular holdings for myself rather than vassalizing them?

the ones that make up the duchy your capital is in are always good to fully control