Why claimants dont become my vassals when I press their claims and win the war?

[Freeman]

Example: I was the King of Ireland, and I invited a women to court, that had the claim for England, pressed her claim (a kid was on the throne), won the war, she becomes Queen of England and I get nothing. What am I missing or what did I do wrong? How do I make sure a claimant will become my vassal? For example, when I pressed a claim on the Duchy of Essex, that claimant became a Duke and my vassal.

[GamesDan]

You can only have vassals of a lower tier than your primary title. As a King, you can't have King-tier vassals, they're equal to you, so pressing those claims will result in the claimant becoming independent. Whereas a Duke is a lower tier than King, so those claimants become your vassal. You can only have King-tier vassals if you have an Empire-tier title.

That unfortunately means it isn't worth pressing claims for a king-level claim unless you are an Emperor. Sometimes those characters will have claims on lower tier titles, though, and you can press those instead. Also be aware that the claimant will become independent even if he or she is currently your vassal, if you press a claim that is the same level as your primary title.

[DonJuanDoja]

1. They need to be landed or even if they're a count they'll be independent when you win.
2. King's can't have vassal Kings so even if landed, like GamesDan said, won't work and won't create empire title for you.
3. This means you'd have to be an emperor, and grant some title to the claimant, then press the claim to make them your vassal.

[CrUsHeR]

As explained above, though there are of course constellations where it is worth pushing a king's claim. Example if they are young enough and have no children, you could set them up in a marriage which causes their children to be of your dynasty. Perhaps even marry them yourself, then your heir will also inherit their kingdom if their succession laws allow that.

[GamesDan]

Originally posted by DonJuanDoja:

1. They need to be landed or even if they're a count they'll be independent when you win.
2. King's can't have vassal Kings so even if landed, like GamesDan said, won't work and won't create empire title for you.
3. This means you'd have to be an emperor, and grant some title to the claimant, then press the claim to make them your vassal.

I could be wrong but I don't think in CK3 that the claimant has to be landed before you press the claim to make him or her your vassal (unlike CK2), assuming the claimed title is a lower tier than yours. I have not "pre-landed" any claimants with count-level claims in CK3 before I pressed the claim for them, and they always became my vassal afterwards.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

Originally posted by DonJuanDoja:

1. They need to be landed or even if they're a count they'll be independent when you win.
2. King's can't have vassal Kings so even if landed, like GamesDan said, won't work and won't create empire title for you.
3. This means you'd have to be an emperor, and grant some title to the claimant, then press the claim to make them your vassal.

they don't have to be landed in CK3, they just need to be a lower tier than you. That was one of the main QoL improvements coming from CK2.

[CrUsHeR]

You just need to recruit them to your court. Giving claimants land was CK2.

There is a major design flaw though. Female claimants can not only be recruited, but they even fire the "my last chance" event where you have 1 year time to push the claim or they move to another court.

Thing is, that claims of women can only be pressed against female rulers or children. And in case of e.g. muslims, never (at least for the default realms with male-only).

The game will even suggest to declare such a claim war, but no claims can be selected (blank window).

[Heraclius Caesar]

besides what others have already said, along with the obvious that a king can't be the vassal of another king, when you go to declare the war it will tell you in the drop down list if they (the claimant) will become your vassal, stay your vassal, etc.

[Freeman]

Originally posted by GamesDan:

You can only have vassals of a lower tier than your primary title. As a King, you can't have King-tier vassals, they're equal to you, so pressing those claims will result in the claimant becoming independent. Whereas a Duke is a lower tier than King, so those claimants become your vassal. You can only have King-tier vassals if you have an Empire-tier title.

That unfortunately means it isn't worth pressing claims for a king-level claim unless you are an Emperor. Sometimes those characters will have claims on lower tier titles, though, and you can press those instead. Also be aware that the claimant will become independent even if he or she is currently your vassal, if you press a claim that is the same level as your primary title.

Thank You for the answer, marked it as the best answer ;)

and thanks everyone for the input.

[Freeman]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

As explained above, though there are of course constellations where it is worth pushing a king's claim. Example if they are young enough and have no children, you could set them up in a marriage which causes their children to be of your dynasty. Perhaps even marry them yourself, then your heir will also inherit their kingdom if their succession laws allow that.

I married that women, now the Queen of England, to a member of my House, so their heir will be of my House. That should mean that I will get a Claim Title action button on that heir, right? Then I just claim the title of King of England, press my own claim, win the war, and I become King of England. Would that work? Sorry, new to the CK games.