Cadet branch??

[AcesPlusEights]

Ehh I've noticed a few of these pop up, what even are they?o.O
Could someone explain? x_x

[kaiyl_kariashi]

it's basically a mini-dynasty within your dynasty.

Normally there's a lot of things that require approval of the dynasty head to do, but if you form your own house, you get a lot of the powers of the dynasty head for yourself, but only within people that are part of your house. It also helps to control seniority succession a bit more, since it takes the oldest person within your house and only looks to the rest of the dynasty if no one else in the current house is a valid heir.

[AcesPlusEights]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

it's basically a mini-dynasty within your dynasty.

Normally there's a lot of things that require approval of the dynasty head to do, but if you form your own house, you get a lot of the powers of the dynasty head for yourself, but only within people that are part of your house. It also helps to control seniority succession a bit more, since it takes the oldest person within your house and only looks to the rest of the dynasty if no one else in the current house is a valid heir.

So are they like allies or something kinda? I've seen like 4 pop up so far in my kingdom ._.

[The Former]

Originally posted by AcesPlusEights:

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

it's basically a mini-dynasty within your dynasty.

Normally there's a lot of things that require approval of the dynasty head to do, but if you form your own house, you get a lot of the powers of the dynasty head for yourself, but only within people that are part of your house. It also helps to control seniority succession a bit more, since it takes the oldest person within your house and only looks to the rest of the dynasty if no one else in the current house is a valid heir.

So are they like allies or something kinda? I've seen like 4 pop up so far in my kingdom ._.

Not quite.

You have your dynasty. This is your extended family, all descended from the same person. By default, the dynasty also qualifies as a house. Houses matter for member relations and, more importantly, dictating who the House Head can affect with his several authoritative powers.

Cadet branches are new houses formed within your dynasty. A cadet branch basically says, "These people are under the dynastic head, but respect a separate house head."

In terms of hierarchy, you might think of it as... A dynasty is a nation's armed forces, while cadet branches are the branches of service. Or a dynasty is a branch of service, while cadet branches are operational divisions underneath the head of that branch of service. They operate independently of other equal elements, but are still part of the greater whole.

[CrUsHeR]

Cadet Branches (Houses)

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Dynasty#Houses

The House Head has an enormous degree of control over all house members. Most notably he gets a weak hook on all newly born house members with all its possibilities.

In particular for Tribal realms this can be insane, because tribals cannot form cadet branches. At the very least, every single member of your dynasty owes you around 120-250g from Golden Obligations. Including unlanded NPCs who perhaps got some money through a bribe or inheritance.

[AcesPlusEights]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Cadet Branches (Houses)

https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Dynasty#Houses

The House Head has an enormous degree of control over all house members. Most notably he gets a weak hook on all newly born house members with all its possibilities.

In particular for Tribal realms this can be insane, because tribals cannot form cadet branches. At the very least, every single member of your dynasty owes you around 120-250g from Golden Obligations. Including unlanded NPCs who perhaps got some money through a bribe or inheritance.

Golden obligations became the best perk ever to me. Would have gone bankrupt last night without it x__x

[ste]

I think there should be an option to switch this off,

[CrUsHeR]

Originally posted by ste:

I think there should be an option to switch this off,

Okay... why?

[ste]

Because I like to give out titles to my dynasty, the they keep switching. I have seniority as well and these idiots are removing themselves from succession

[CrUsHeR]

Alright, but you can only form a cadet branch when your ancestors are dead and you stand not in line to inherit titles from your current house head.

By this point, the game considers the branch distant enough to allow them their own house.

Otherwise, they would always be subject to your house head powers and privileges. Not just the hooks but also bastard legitimization, divorce, or call to arms - which is free, apparently cannot be refused and is a one-way obligation.

Actually it is almost an exploit if you are tribal, and get plenty of house members installed on foreign thrones. They cannot create cadet houses because you as the dynasty/ house head are tribal. Giving you an entire army of one-way alliances which you can call as many times as you want for no costs.