how to claim more during a war?

[ddrei]

i am currently trying to get the roman empire together and i ran into an issue.

i am forging claims on baronies left and right but when it is time for war i can only claim one barony even if i have the claim on 7 to 10.
is there a way to claim them all in one swoop? can i claim a duchy when i have claim on all baronies in it? or do i need a special trait?
doing it barony by barony with peace time in between takes way too long and i feel i miss something.

i was able to claim 2 duchies by getting the pope to transfer the power to me and fight for them in a war but that is not an options for my current king.

thanks for your input!

[EA Latium]

You need better Technology for that, it's absolutely possible. Also pushing someone else's Claim work too, you could potentially go for whole Kingdoms that way.

[ddrei]

how can i find out if someone else has a claim on the kingdom? and if i do... how to i get them to me?

[JuX]

Think you mean counties, as baronies are the small parts of a county. But in terms of baronies however you can revoke any barony within your lands without tyranny penalty.

You can declare war on someone with casus beli for "your claims", which let's you claim everything you have a claim on at one swoop. It's expensive with fabrication and more of a tool to conquer land that is too divided to gain through the generic casus beli.


If you want everything they own then you can purchase claims on everything they have through learning skill, but it has limitations. Such as being a king or emperor prevents you from buying claims on other kingdoms and empires.

[Transylvandrei]

You can open a list of claimants for any given title. Then you check to see whether there are any unlanded characters you could potentially bring into your court to press their claims.

There are three main ways of doing this: marriage (to yourself or one of your courtiers - matrilineal to bring in males, regular to bring females), hooks (fabricated or blackmailed through found secrets) and seduction.

However keep in mind that pressing a claim for a character of the non-dominant gender of your religion is more restrictive, e.g. in male-dominated faiths you can only press a female character's claims against a female or child ruler (or MAYBE against a title that is currently being contested in a war, not sure about this, used to be the case in CK2 at least).

For this reason it is preferrable to be playing as a female ruler, or to reform your faith with equal gender doctrine. Remember to also ask claimants to convert before pressing their claims since that makes it significantly cheaper.

Finally, you can always switch to a faith that can declare great holy wars and considers the faiths you want to attack as hostile for taking entire kingdoms at once.

[EA Latium]

Originally posted by ddrei:

how can i find out if someone else has a claim on the kingdom? and if i do... how to i get them to me?

On their tabs they have a list with Claims, when clicking on a Title there is a menu that shows the list of Claimants. Normally Marriage is the most straightforward way to get them.

[ddrei]

that list is useful! thank you so much

[ddrei]

just a follow up to see if i understand this correctly...

i found a daughter that has a weak link to the kingdom i want.
can i marry that daughter into my family / to my son and then use her claim for a war?

there are 2 main heirs of the kingdom. can they be overruled by my war with the weak link daughter?

[kaiyl_kariashi]

You can only press claims of Women against children or other women unless the Gender Laws of the title are at least Equal (the reverse is true for Female dominated).

If it's a pressed claim though, her children (which would be of your dynasty) could inheirt it, and if they're male, then you could press it once they're adults. If it's an unpressed claim, you'll have to pray a child or woman gets on throne so you can attack over it, since an unpressed claim won't be inheirted.

If the claiment is a man, you can usually just press his claim once you get him to your court, and he'll become a vassal as long as the tier is lower than your highest title.

[ddrei]

ok. good.

another follow up:

i engaged my daughter to a guy who has a claim onto venedig (the whole kingdom). after that i found some dirt on him and forced him to come to my court.
i now can press his claim onto venedig BUT he will be independent afterwards. which means i basically created a strong longterm ally.

are there any other benefits for that action? cause my successor would not have any ties to venedig other than his sister as the kings wife.

sorry for all those weird questions but this is my first crusader kings and mid/lategame confuses me a lot cause most infos i find online is about early game.