this is literally just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 3D stardew valley

[CaptainCheese]

come on guys.

[§avaģє]

I smell troll with this one. No one cares, SV is a ripoff of Rune Factory, move on.

[PandaWaffles]

Originally posted by §avaģє:

I smell troll with this one. No one cares, SV is a ripoff of Rune Factory, move on.

So true, this SV stuff is getting so old. There have been 100s of farming games

[MoonlessNight]

The game is Excellent, if ya don't like it don't play it.

[Rhyagelle]

And Stardew Valley is only here because of other farming games before it. Your point?

[Supgad]

I agree that reusing or iterating on tried and tested mechanics or features isn't "bad." It advances the genre, and creates evergreen features that tie the entire genre together. Good stuff.

That said, there are some elements of this game that do genuinely feel utterly derivative. I know Stardew Valley borrowed heavily the basic features of, say, Harvest Moon and Rune Factory, so I don't mean to suggest that Stardew Valley is the OG farming simulator game by any means. But the fact that, for example, weeds even drop fibre in Coral Island feels like a direct carbon copy.

Coral Island is beautiful and has a lot to praise and look forward to. That can be (and indeed is) true. It can also be true at the same time that it has borrowed even very small, granular details from Stardew Valley. Acknowledging those two truths doesn't make the game any less enjoyable, necessarily, but dismissing that Coral Island has been heavily influenced by Stardew Valley doesn't make it any less true either.

[Dasparado]

Technically Stardew Valley is much more Harvest Moon and its 26 versions of the game. Rune Factory is more of a different take on it. I bet if you go back though to the 90s, Harvest Moon probably ripped it off from something else as well.

[SwtBeat]

Originally posted by Supgad:

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That said, there are some elements of this game that do genuinely feel utterly derivative. I know Stardew Valley borrowed heavily the basic features of, say, Harvest Moon and Rune Factory, so I don't mean to suggest that Stardew Valley is the OG farming simulator game by any means. But the fact that, for example, weeds even drop fibre in Coral Island feels like a direct carbon copy.
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Considering that fiber is from the cellulose of plants in real life, it makes sense that weeds/grass would drop fiber (& seeds) in a video game.

I wouldn't call an expected behavior derivative, it carries an unnecessarily negative connotation. I think it's weirder that older farming games didn't drop items from weeds/grass like they did with logs/rocks, I'm happy someone improved the experience and now it's normalized

[Supgad]

Originally posted by SwtBeat:

Originally posted by Supgad:

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That said, there are some elements of this game that do genuinely feel utterly derivative. I know Stardew Valley borrowed heavily the basic features of, say, Harvest Moon and Rune Factory, so I don't mean to suggest that Stardew Valley is the OG farming simulator game by any means. But the fact that, for example, weeds even drop fibre in Coral Island feels like a direct carbon copy.
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Considering that fiber is from the cellulose of plants in real life, it makes sense that weeds/grass would drop fiber (& seeds) in a video game.

I wouldn't call an expected behavior derivative, it carries an unnecessarily negative connotation. I think it's weirder that older farming games didn't drop items from weeds/grass like they did with logs/rocks, I'm happy someone improved the experience and now it's normalized

I'm not saying it's not rational, and I'm not saying it's "bad" that Coral Island has carried forward this behaviour. All I mean is, people are so quick to denounce that Coral Island is very similar to Stardew Valley, in even small ways. And I think there is precisely zero harm is acknowledging that it is. Accepting that Coral Island has repurposed or reiterated on many of the concepts from one or many other games doesn't make Coral Island any less enjoyable or valuable to the genre.

[Vrolok]

Guys I just noticed something! Call of Duty is just a Doom ripoff! Sure it looks better, and has updated mechanics, but you still grab a gun and shoot people!

[§avaģє]

Originally posted by Vrolok:

Guys I just noticed something! Call of Duty is just a Doom ripoff! Sure it looks better, and has updated mechanics, but you still grab a gun and shoot people!

COD also releases the same game like every year with different graphics.

[V.V.]

TBH SDV has way more options, even choosing the layout of your farm which has their own unique perks.

[Bastard™]

Edit: I don't see why games being similar or even derivative is necessarily a bad thing, especially when there aren't exactly many ways of doing a particular genre without including prominent aspects of that genre. You expect a farming sim without farming or animals? Or a dating sim without romance? An RPG without stats and skills and items? Some things are just staples of the genre and are in there by default, and there are only so many ways you can find a new way of digging up some dirt and planting some seeds...

Given how popular SDV and similar games are with its target audience, you'd think people would be happier to have more of what they love.

Originally posted by V.V.:

TBH SDV has way more options, even choosing the layout of your farm which has their own unique perks.

SDV isn't in early access though and was never released in EA, while Coral Island is, so maybe a lot of the desired features missing from SDV and other inspired works will be added at a later date.

[Mrs. General Grievous]

So?

[Volk]

Originally posted by CaptainCheese:

come on guys.

honestly all farming games like this are copies of each other, yes even stardew. But honestly this game beats stardew in every aspect and once missing features are added itll be the best on the market

[V.V.]

Originally posted by DVOYD:

SDV isn't in early access though and was never released in EA, while Coral Island is, so maybe a lot of the desired features missing from SDV and other inspired works will be added at a later date.

I was being literal. But I do not think that CI will have as many options as SDV even when it gets released. Generally dev's move from project to project, very few will stick with one passion project and do many many years of updating with new features and QoL. Once the game is released, I predict the updates will slow to a crawl (if they aren't already slow during EA).

Not saying this to bash the game, it's just how it generally goes with most games.