Feb 2024 Dev update - new roadmap and what to expect in the 1.1 update

[Piperbird]

https://www.stairwaygames.com/post/february-2024-dev-update

[AtomicKitten]

It seems like the game developers should fix the problems players are having before adding more stuff to the game. Right now, some players are dealing with missing cutscenes, losing their inventory, and the game crashing all the time. It feels like the developers aren't taking these issues seriously. Instead of fixing these problems first, they keep adding new features, which can be frustrating for players.

While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. Lots of players are quitting the game for good because of these glitches, so fixing them should be a top priority.

Also, there are performance issues like lag and stuttering, especially for Xbox and Steam players. These problems have been around for months. They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

To sum up, it's important for the developers to focus on fixing these issues BEFORE adding more content to the game! But of course, that's just my opinion...

[JVC]

Can't recognize that description. I have had a few memory issues because my laptop is below minimum requirements. But the game works fine and I've almost completed the current storyline.

[indy-anna]

Originally posted by AtomicKitten:

It seems like the game developers should fix the problems players are having before adding more stuff to the game. Right now, some players are dealing with missing cutscenes, losing their inventory, and the game crashing all the time. It feels like the developers aren't taking these issues seriously. Instead of fixing these problems first, they keep adding new features, which can be frustrating for players.

While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. Lots of players are quitting the game for good because of these glitches, so fixing them should be a top priority.

Also, there are performance issues like lag and stuttering, especially for Xbox and Steam players. These problems have been around for months. They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

To sum up, it's important for the developers to focus on fixing these issues BEFORE adding more content to the game! But of course, that's just my opinion... :carolineagw:

I don't have crash issues. The devs should increase the minimum specs to fix the performance issues.

I invested in a good computer and I have zero performance issues. We shouldn't not get a story update to finish the game, because you think we shouldn't.

[Averagedog]

The devs are already in hot water for releasing at 1.0 without an actual ending to the game. The S+ tierr was always sold as post game content before so when I ran into the giant's quest not beign finished it was a huge slap in the face.

[ruschejohanna]

@ indy-anna: My computer is barely a year old and still the game crashes

[ShiverDome]

Originally posted by indy-anna:

Originally posted by AtomicKitten:

It seems like the game developers should fix the problems players are having before adding more stuff to the game. Right now, some players are dealing with missing cutscenes, losing their inventory, and the game crashing all the time. It feels like the developers aren't taking these issues seriously. Instead of fixing these problems first, they keep adding new features, which can be frustrating for players.

While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. Lots of players are quitting the game for good because of these glitches, so fixing them should be a top priority.

Also, there are performance issues like lag and stuttering, especially for Xbox and Steam players. These problems have been around for months. They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone.

To sum up, it's important for the developers to focus on fixing these issues BEFORE adding more content to the game! But of course, that's just my opinion... :carolineagw:

I don't have crash issues. The devs should increase the minimum specs to fix the performance issues.

I invested in a good computer and I have zero performance issues. We shouldn't not get a story update to finish the game, because you think we shouldn't.

You are making assumption based on zero evidence. The fact that you have a computer with strong specs and don't get stuttering or crashes does not mean that others are getting them because their computer specs are low. Especially when people started complaining after the last two updates.

While the team that keeps developing the game is not the one doing bug fixes, the fact that there are quite a lot of people who can't play the game and there is not even an ETA for when those bugs will be fixed speaks volume of their priorities.

[indy-anna]

Originally posted by ShiverDome:

Originally posted by indy-anna:

I don't have crash issues. The devs should increase the minimum specs to fix the performance issues.

I invested in a good computer and I have zero performance issues. We shouldn't not get a story update to finish the game, because you think we shouldn't.

You are making assumption based on zero evidence. The fact that you have a computer with strong specs and don't get stuttering or crashes does not mean that others are getting them because their computer specs are low. Especially when people started complaining after the last two updates.

While the team that keeps developing the game is not the one doing bug fixes, the fact that there are quite a lot of people who can't play the game and there is not even an ETA for when those bugs will be fixed speaks volume of their priorities.

My issue was with wanting the story to be stopped until they fixed the performance issues. As you say there's 2 different teams working on the game. So lay off the story team and spend their money fixing the performance issues, and not make any more sales because the the game's incomplete. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Performance issues can be caused by something so simple as not having a SSD drive.

[ShiverDome]

Originally posted by indy-anna:

Originally posted by ShiverDome:

You are making assumption based on zero evidence. The fact that you have a computer with strong specs and don't get stuttering or crashes does not mean that others are getting them because their computer specs are low. Especially when people started complaining after the last two updates.

While the team that keeps developing the game is not the one doing bug fixes, the fact that there are quite a lot of people who can't play the game and there is not even an ETA for when those bugs will be fixed speaks volume of their priorities.

My issue was with wanting the story to be stopped until they fixed the performance issues. As you say there's 2 different teams working on the game. So lay off the story team and spend their money fixing the performance issues, and not make any more sales because the the game's incomplete. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Performance issues can be caused by something so simple as not having a SSD drive.

SSD drive will do the same work as an HHD drive, and, quite frankly, there not enough resources to make a major difference. Regardless, my comment was about the flippant way you proclaimed that the issue resides with people low hardware specs, when such information is unlikely to be true, as most issues arose from the last couple of updates.

That being said, yes, the existence of bugs should not force the company to dissolve the team that works on new versions and just move them to also work on fixing bugs. That will be silly. Like hiring 80 people to paint a small room at the same time, at some point, more people working on the same thing will just hinder the work.

[indy-anna]

Originally posted by ShiverDome:

Originally posted by indy-anna:

My issue was with wanting the story to be stopped until they fixed the performance issues. As you say there's 2 different teams working on the game. So lay off the story team and spend their money fixing the performance issues, and not make any more sales because the the game's incomplete. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Performance issues can be caused by something so simple as not having a SSD drive.

(SSD drive will do the same work as an HHD drive, and, quite frankly, there not enough resources to make a major difference.)

Said everyone who didn't have a SSD drive on the starfield forum and had severe lag. Yet my computer can run starfield with ultra settings and no lag.


(Regardless, my comment was about the flippant way you proclaimed that the issue resides with people low hardware specs, when such information is unlikely to be true, as most issues arose from the last couple of updates.)

You took issue with the way I responded even though my response matched that poster's flippancy about new content being added to the game.

Updates add more code, resources, etc. The more that is added to the game the more it grows. Take the sims 4, it used to be able to run on 32 bit computers, they increased it to 64 bit and no longer support 32 bit computers.

You guys say the devs are showing that their priorities are in the wrong. I read the forum and on most bug reports they are responding asking for more info from the poster reporting the bugs. The devs are working on the bugs, they can't fix the bugs as fast as people would like if they have to wait days for a response on computer specs, what the player was doing in game when the bug happened, etc.

And AMD cards are always problematic. I used to use AMD cards and there was always problems with getting the games to work. People say Nividia's bad but in my experience their cards have fewer issues than AMD's cards.

That being said, yes, the existence of bugs should not force the company to dissolve the team that works on new versions and just move them to also work on fixing bugs. That will be silly. Like hiring 80 people to paint a small room at the same time, at some point, more people working on the same thing will just hinder the work.

[AtomicKitten]

Originally posted by indy-anna:

Originally posted by ShiverDome:

(SSD drive will do the same work as an HHD drive, and, quite frankly, there not enough resources to make a major difference.)

Said everyone who didn't have a SSD drive on the starfield forum and had severe lag. Yet my computer can run starfield with ultra settings and no lag.


(Regardless, my comment was about the flippant way you proclaimed that the issue resides with people low hardware specs, when such information is unlikely to be true, as most issues arose from the last couple of updates.)

You took issue with the way I responded even though my response matched that poster's flippancy about new content being added to the game.

Updates add more code, resources, etc. The more that is added to the game the more it grows. Take the sims 4, it used to be able to run on 32 bit computers, they increased it to 64 bit and no longer support 32 bit computers.

You guys say the devs are showing that their priorities are in the wrong. I read the forum and on most bug reports they are responding asking for more info from the poster reporting the bugs. The devs are working on the bugs, they can't fix the bugs as fast as people would like if they have to wait days for a response on computer specs, what the player was doing in game when the bug happened, etc.

And AMD cards are always problematic. I used to use AMD cards and there was always problems with getting the games to work. People say Nividia's bad but in my experience their cards have fewer issues than AMD's cards.

That being said, yes, the existence of bugs should not force the company to dissolve the team that works on new versions and just move them to also work on fixing bugs. That will be silly. Like hiring 80 people to paint a small room at the same time, at some point, more people working on the same thing will just hinder the work.

I'm not here to argue with you. English is not my first language, so please excuse me if it triggered you as "flippant".
I would like to emphasise again (quote from my original text):

"While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. (...) They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone."

So I don't understand why you think that I don't want you or the players in general to have more content. I meant that the developers should deal with the urgently needed fixes for the crashes before new content is released. If the fundament is not good, I don't build a second floor on top of a shaky house, if you know what I mean.

I'm looking forward to the new content updates myself... so please don't misunderstand me.

By the way, I'm happy for all those players like you who have no problems with the game and just want new content. I just wanted to point out with my post that it does NOT work for many players (yes, many players, if you look at Reddit, Discord and Steam). But I'm happy if everything works for you, and I mean that seriously, in case my writing style is misinterpreted again.

So have a good night and goodbye!

[indy-anna]

Originally posted by AtomicKitten:

Originally posted by indy-anna:

I'm not here to argue with you. English is not my first language, so please excuse me if it triggered you as "flippant".
I would like to emphasise again (quote from my original text):

"While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. (...) They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone."

So I don't understand why you think that I don't want you or the players in general to have more content. I meant that the developers should deal with the urgently needed fixes for the crashes before new content is released. If the fundament is not good, I don't build a second floor on top of a shaky house, if you know what I mean.

I'm looking forward to the new content updates myself... so please don't misunderstand me.

By the way, I'm happy for all those players like you who have no problems with the game and just want new content. I just wanted to point out with my post that it does NOT work for many players (yes, many players, if you look at Reddit, Discord and Steam). But I'm happy if everything works for you, and I mean that seriously, in case my writing style is misinterpreted again.

So have a good night and goodbye! :cqhealth:

The last sentence is what triggered me., When you capitalized the word before. The sentence that I mean was this ( To sum up, it's important for the developers to focus on fixing these issues BEFORE adding more content to the game! )

Sorry that I let your post trigger me. I didn't get the impression that you want new content added to the game.

I hope they do fix the bugs and crashes and I'm unhappy for the players that can't play the game.

[ShiverDome]

Originally posted by indy-anna:

Updates add more code, resources, etc. The more that is added to the game the more it grows. Take the sims 4, it used to be able to run on 32 bit computers, they increased it to 64 bit and no longer support 32 bit computers.

Not necessarily, and franchises like The Sims were always criticize for their performance degrading exponentially with each new expansion pack. Regardless of that, the last couple of updates were mainly bug fixes and minor changes that added little to the base game, I might need to look again, but I don't remember any new resources mentioned, so the argument about the game becoming too big and requiring more RAM or a faster clocked CPU doesn't seem to be the issue at hand.

It seems that you are still basing your opinion based on the notion that all the people who encountered issues are ones with hardware specs correlating to the minimum requirement when there is no evidence of that.

Originally posted by indy-anna:

You guys say the devs are showing that their priorities are in the wrong. I read the forum and on most bug reports they are responding asking for more info from the poster reporting the bugs. The devs are working on the bugs, they can't fix the bugs as fast as people would like if they have to wait days for a response on computer specs, what the player was doing in game when the bug happened, etc.

Not ignoring the people who report issues is not the same as updating people on ETA of when those issues will be resolved. Keep in mind that we are not discussing some minority of people who experience it and that new bug presents a situation where the game is unplayable.

Originally posted by indy-anna:

And AMD cards are always problematic. I used to use AMD cards and there was always problems with getting the games to work. People say Nividia's bad but in my experience their cards have fewer issues than AMD's cards.

No. AMD cards are not "always problematic." I have no idea where you took that notion from. Sure, there are issues at times and NVIDIA sometimes present different issues. Considering that the dev team didn't indicate that the GPU manufacturer is the issue, I don't see why you would even mention it.

NVIDIA cards are not bad. Just some of their practices are questionable.

[Rainbow Bright]

I understand the need for bug fixes, and they seem to be rolling them out as fast as possible. When people, including myself, have posted issues, they address them and ask for information right away so they can identify and work for fixes. However, I need these updates. I am done with the current game and cannot progress any further until the Savannah and other new features are brought it. Because of this, I have stopped playing. Now that the new road-map has been released, I am excited again and ready to start playing. I just wish the road-map had release dates for these new updates. My 2 biggest updates I am excited about is to be able to access the Savannah, and for Multi-player to be introduced so my family can join me in playing this game. The rest are bonuses that brings even more fun and new features to the game.

[Coke-u-nut]

Originally posted by AtomicKitten:

Originally posted by indy-anna:

I'm not here to argue with you. English is not my first language, so please excuse me if it triggered you as "flippant".
I would like to emphasise again (quote from my original text):

"While it's cool to have new stuff in the game, it would be better if they made sure everything already in the game works smoothly. (...) They need to sort out these technical issues to make the game more enjoyable for everyone."

So I don't understand why you think that I don't want you or the players in general to have more content. I meant that the developers should deal with the urgently needed fixes for the crashes before new content is released. If the fundament is not good, I don't build a second floor on top of a shaky house, if you know what I mean.

I'm looking forward to the new content updates myself... so please don't misunderstand me.

By the way, I'm happy for all those players like you who have no problems with the game and just want new content. I just wanted to point out with my post that it does NOT work for many players (yes, many players, if you look at Reddit, Discord and Steam). But I'm happy if everything works for you, and I mean that seriously, in case my writing style is misinterpreted again.

So have a good night and goodbye! :cqhealth:

English isn't your first language? Good lord, I wish I could speak another language this good. O.o;; I know like.. three curse words and four ways to say cat. lol

[Coke-u-nut]

I'd *really* appreciate some SFX revamps. There's nothing wrong with them logically, but seeing as the sound you get from putting things in a chest, in the sell box, ect is tied to *no* audio sliders, none, at all, it drives me insane I can have a totally silent game aside the music playing and that god awful sound will still be loud as hell.
I also hate the 'out of water' sound you get from the watering can. Whoever did your SFX, they need to read the room, because given how relaxing the game is and how peaceful even the upbeat music is, these sounds cut through everything like a screaming child on a 29 hour non-stop flight.

I get not everybody gets overstimulated with sounds, but at least tie that box sound to *something* so I can turn it down man.