Geode drops seem off

[Pheonix Fontaine]

Osmium Pickaxe. Enchantments: Hit Drop, Rare Drop, Extra Drop (all purple)

Cleared 15 floors of the water mine and didn't get any water geodes, got 1 earth geode from one of the enchantments. Water geodes don't seem to be dropping frequently if at all from a lot of floors even beside the other geode rates it seems.

Equally seems like all geodes have a lower rate across the board, not seeing many of them all around.

Could just be really bad RNG swing, but a couple people mentioned it in a stream I was tuned into.

[ArdiStairway]

Hi. Thank you for your report. The geode follows a probability system, where outcomes are influenced by chance. Thank you for understanding

[Valk]

Originally posted by ArdiStairway:

Hi. Thank you for your report. The geode follows a probability system, where outcomes are influenced by chance. Thank you for understanding

This has been a problem for a while. If you're reliably able to affect the chance as devs, you might not have noticed it, but we as players certainly have. We shouldn't need to have to max out the pickaxe drop rates, and then also get the perfect chance lineup, to stand a chance at *MAYBE* getting a few (basically) lootboxes that might not even give us the thing we want. Yes, people were abusing some stuff pre-1.0 to get crazy drop rates, but the solution wasn't to nerf the rates across the board, it was to find out why people were relying so heavily on exploits and address what was causing that behaviour. Namely, the extremely low drop rates if you didn't exploit it.

[Pheonix Fontaine]

Originally posted by ArdiStairway:

Hi. Thank you for your report. The geode follows a probability system, where outcomes are influenced by chance. Thank you for understanding

This is very unlikely to be just RNG. There are absolutely no water geodes dropping from some full-floor or multi-floor clears with just the fully enchanted pickax. As comparison, I'm hitting some rocks and getting 3 fossils. It's definitely bugged in some manner, not just RNG being bad.

I can confirm I saw a few when clearing the bottom 10 floors (iced over), but getting more mystery geodes and earth geodes than water geodes is not intended behavior. Even then I'm still seeing ZERO in some instances.

Even then, all other geodes visibly have an excessively low droprate, but that's at least manageable.

[Nefrarya]

Yeah, I've been farming the mines now for about 2 seasons specifically for geodes to complete the gem collection. Before that, I've visited the mines regularly for 1,5 ingame years to get ores and monster loot for game progression (release version, not EA).

I love doing repetitive game tasks to relax, but this has even me at a point where it's not fun anymore. I get maybe 3 elemental geodes and 1 or 2 mystery geodes a day, and it stings to get mostly trash/ore or some more common gems from them.

If it's not a bug, here's my heartfelt recommendation to give your probability system another look.

[Valk]

Originally posted by Nefrarya:

Yeah, I've been farming the mines now for about 2 seasons specifically for geodes to complete the gem collection. Before that, I've visited the mines regularly for 1,5 ingame years to get ores and monster loot for game progression (release version, not EA).

I love doing repetitive game tasks to relax, but this has even me at a point where it's not fun anymore. I get maybe 3 elemental geodes and 1 or 2 mystery geodes a day, and it stings to get mostly trash/ore or some more common gems from them.

If it's not a bug, here's my heartfelt recommendation to give your probability system another look.

EXACTLY. It is meant to be a relaxing game. There's nothing worse than when a relaxing game gets tedious for the sake of extending playtime.

[Rachma_Stairway]

Hi everyone, thank you for bringing the issue to our attention, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.
Could you please let us know, how many days you can't see the Geode? Do you happen to didn't find all the Geodes or only the water Geodes?
Also, can you send your save file to [e-mail]?
You can write 'Requested Save File - Steam Discussion - [Steam username]' in the subject.
Thank you!

[Pheonix Fontaine]

Originally posted by Rachma_Stairway:

Hi everyone, thank you for bringing the issue to our attention, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.
Could you please let us know, how many days you can't see the Geode? Do you happen to didn't find all the Geodes or only the water Geodes?
Also, can you send your save file to [e-mail]?
You can write 'Requested Save File - Steam Discussion - [Steam username]' in the subject.
Thank you!

All geodes seem lowered, but only Water Geode has extended periods of little to no drops.
All geodes can still be found, including water geodes, but difficult to say if it's a natural drop when this does happen.

I want to say since at least the last patch in maybe December? I hadn't actively hunted them in greater part, though when I first went through the water mine sometime shortly after the game's official release when I started playing, I definitely noticed more of them and that was without any boosted rates from the better pickax.

(save sent) Hope ya'll can nail this issue out without too much work. Thanks for being there, definitely appreciate it.

[Valk]

Originally posted by Pheonix Fontaine:

Originally posted by Rachma_Stairway:

Hi everyone, thank you for bringing the issue to our attention, and we sincerely apologize for any inconvenience.
Could you please let us know, how many days you can't see the Geode? Do you happen to didn't find all the Geodes or only the water Geodes?
Also, can you send your save file to [e-mail]?
You can write 'Requested Save File - Steam Discussion - [Steam username]' in the subject.
Thank you!

All geodes seem lowered, but only Water Geode has extended periods of little to no drops.
All geodes can still be found, including water geodes, but difficult to say if it's a natural drop when this does happen.

I want to say since at least the last patch in maybe December? I hadn't actively hunted them in greater part, though when I first went through the water mine sometime shortly after the game's official release when I started playing, I definitely noticed more of them and that was without any boosted rates from the better pickax.

(save sent) Hope ya'll can nail this issue out without too much work. Thanks for being there, definitely appreciate it.

It is ever since the rates of fossils were nerfed pre 1.0. every rare drop seemed to be nerfed with that.

[Nefrarya]

I've done some testing with 4 days in each mine starting at level 15 and got these results:

=============================
Winter 11 - 14, Year 2 - Water Shaft
Water Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
7 / 6
3 / 5
3 / 3
3 / 3

Winter 15 - 18, Year 2 - Earth Shaft
Earth Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
5 / 3
12 / 3 (Tuesday, shorter)
10 / 6
8 / 6

Winter 19 - 22, Year 2 - Fire Shaft
Fire Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
6 / 8
5 / 3
7 / 6
14 / 9

Winter 23 - 26, Year 2 - Wind Shaft
Wind Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
5 / 1 (Tuesday, shorter)
6 / 0
4 / 6
7 / 3
=============================

I upped the enchantment on my pickaxe, that was costly but that definitely helped compared to before. But these numbers are with 90% game time speed, enchanted osmium pickaxe, level 10 mining skill, and only the barest time spent tending to a fairly automated farm.
Also, I only encountered two (2)(!!!) gem nodes in the entire 16 days. That seems outrageous.

To be clear: I like the actual loot table that's behind the blacksmiths' breaking open service. The distribution of trash / medium stuff / rare stuff feels balanced in the way that rare still gives you that little endorphin kick without a swarm of trash.

But at least in late game I'd prefer to get around 10 elemental geodes and around 5 mystery geodes per half day of farming the mines. That should give people a better chance to complete the collections.

Fossils rate seem fine to me.


Where do I find my save file?

[bsmiley2]

I'd be happy to send my save game as well, but don't know how to find it to do so. The only gems I'm lacking are 2 water gems. I'm currently winter day 9 year 3. Town rank 715/795 B, Museum 200/253 C, Ocean 0/200 A, Heritage 180/238 A. Definitely feeling tedious to slog the remainder of the museum out.

[Rachma_Stairway]

Originally posted by Nefrarya:

I've done some testing with 4 days in each mine starting at level 15 and got these results:

=============================
Winter 11 - 14, Year 2 - Water Shaft
Water Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
7 / 6
3 / 5
3 / 3
3 / 3

Winter 15 - 18, Year 2 - Earth Shaft
Earth Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
5 / 3
12 / 3 (Tuesday, shorter)
10 / 6
8 / 6

Winter 19 - 22, Year 2 - Fire Shaft
Fire Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
6 / 8
5 / 3
7 / 6
14 / 9

Winter 23 - 26, Year 2 - Wind Shaft
Wind Geodes/ Mystery Geodes:
5 / 1 (Tuesday, shorter)
6 / 0
4 / 6
7 / 3
=============================

I upped the enchantment on my pickaxe, that was costly but that definitely helped compared to before. But these numbers are with 90% game time speed, enchanted osmium pickaxe, level 10 mining skill, and only the barest time spent tending to a fairly automated farm.
Also, I only encountered two (2)(!!!) gem nodes in the entire 16 days. That seems outrageous.

To be clear: I like the actual loot table that's behind the blacksmiths' breaking open service. The distribution of trash / medium stuff / rare stuff feels balanced in the way that rare still gives you that little endorphin kick without a swarm of trash.

But at least in late game I'd prefer to get around 10 elemental geodes and around 5 mystery geodes per half day of farming the mines. That should give people a better chance to complete the collections.

Fossils rate seem fine to me.


Where do I find my save file?

Hello everyone,
Thank you for the report.
To share your saved files please kindly check the details below.

Steam PC -> C:\Users\ <username>\AppData\Local\ProjectCoral\Saved\SaveGames (AppData folder is sometimes hidden, you need to unhide it first)

Steam Deck -> For Steam Deck, your save file would most likely be stored in 'compatdata' (filepath:/home/deck/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata). From there, you will see lots of folder with random number, Coral Island folder should be the one with code number '1158160'. Enter that folder, into the pfx folder, then drive_c folder, then you can follow the file path here: Users\ <username>\AppData\Local\ProjectCoral\Saved\SaveGames to find your save file,

You can send your save file to [e-mail]
You can write 'Requested Save File - Steam Discussion - [Steam username]' in the subject.
Thank you!

[Rappeldrache]

Same problem here ..... I clear high level on the water cave, again and again and again ... no water geode. I get mystery and even earth, but no water.