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Babby Oct 22, 2023 @ 2:44am
If a pumpkin is a fruit, why is pumpkin juice a vegetable juice and not fruit juice?
If a pumpkin is a fruit, why is pumpkin juice a vegetable juice and not fruit juice? Make it make sense
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ge Oct 22, 2023 @ 7:03am 
IM CONFUSED ABOUT THAT TOO
LyaranTirel Oct 22, 2023 @ 7:11am 
Pumpkin is a fruit?
Falaris Oct 22, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
Pumpkin IS a fruit. The distinction is because a fruit is something formed from a flower - a seed bearing part supposed to be eaten and spread the seeds that way.

Vegetables are (any) other parts of the fruit - roots, tubers, etc. (So, onions, potatoes, etc. are vegetables.).

Pumpkins are, unlike many fruits, not sweet, so it is often thought of as a vegetable.

I am guessing that in the game, the distinction is between the fruity or vegetably flavor (and look) of a juice, and in that context, pumpkin juice would be considered vegetable juice.
LyaranTirel Oct 22, 2023 @ 6:17pm 
Originally posted by Falaris:
Pumpkin IS a fruit. The distinction is because a fruit is something formed from a flower - a seed bearing part supposed to be eaten and spread the seeds that way.

Vegetables are (any) other parts of the fruit - roots, tubers, etc. (So, onions, potatoes, etc. are vegetables.).

Pumpkins are, unlike many fruits, not sweet, so it is often thought of as a vegetable.

I am guessing that in the game, the distinction is between the fruity or vegetably flavor (and look) of a juice, and in that context, pumpkin juice would be considered vegetable juice.

No. I mean in the game is pumpkin 'fruit' or 'vegetable' in the discription.
Just because tomato is a fruit you don't put it on a fruit salad nor you drink tomato juice as a fruit juice (althou I actually DO drink it, but it's not that commum)
crunchyberries Oct 22, 2023 @ 8:10pm 
The devs are from Indonesia and aren't familiar with pumpkins because pumpkins aren't grown in Indonesia. Just make a list of stuff that doesn't make sense, correct each item politely, and send that list to the devs via email or in a post here. It's a lot more helpful than making a post complaining about how this doesn't make sense.
kittyalliance Oct 23, 2023 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by crunchyberries:
The devs are from Indonesia and aren't familiar with pumpkins because pumpkins aren't grown in Indonesia...

That's odd. A quick online search reveals that Indonesia is one of the top 10 countries that grow pumpkins.
peter.melb Oct 23, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
In everyday use whether something is a fruit or vegetable is based on common usage of the item. Only botanists need to worry about the technical definitions.
crunchyberries Oct 24, 2023 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by kittyalliance:
Originally posted by crunchyberries:
The devs are from Indonesia and aren't familiar with pumpkins because pumpkins aren't grown in Indonesia...

That's odd. A quick online search reveals that Indonesia is one of the top 10 countries that grow pumpkins.

I'm curious about your source. I looked up Indonesia's agriculture/exports on Wikipedia and followed several of the links on the page. Pumpkins weren't mentioned in any of them.

I also checked out the wiki page on Pumpkins; there's a list of the top Pumpkin growing countries for 2020 and Indonesia isn't anywhere on it. Nor does Indonesia have a native cultivar for pumpkins despite having very ideal growing conditions for them.
Last edited by crunchyberries; Oct 24, 2023 @ 11:52am
kittyalliance Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by crunchyberries:
Originally posted by kittyalliance:

That's odd. A quick online search reveals that Indonesia is one of the top 10 countries that grow pumpkins.

I'm curious about your source. I looked up Indonesia's agriculture/exports on Wikipedia and followed several of the links on the page. Pumpkins weren't mentioned in any of them.

I also checked out the wiki page on Pumpkins; there's a list of the top Pumpkin growing countries for 2020 and Indonesia isn't anywhere on it. Nor does Indonesia have a native cultivar for pumpkins despite having very ideal growing conditions for them.

Dang. I wish you'd asked me this yesterday. I didn't note the source, and I do not recall the search term I used (or the search engine). I know that "exports" was not one of the terms, and I didn't look at Wikipedia.

HA! Found it. Not sure if I'm allowed to link? It's a website called Sweetish Hill, the article is "Do Pumpkins Grow in Thailand?" and the portion of interest:
"What countries do pumpkins grow in?
The top producer of pumpkins is China with 7.7 million tons, followed by India (5 million tons), Russia (1.2 million tons), Ukraine (1.2 million tons) and USA (1 million tons tons). Mexico, Indonesia, Italy, Cuba and Turkey complete the top 10."

What their source is, I do not know. It was just a quick search on my part.

Whether they have a native cultivar or not is an entirely different issue. Your premise that "The devs are from Indonesia and aren't familiar with pumpkins because pumpkins aren't grown in Indonesia..." made me curious, hence the quick search on my part. I suppose we could ask the devs if they are, indeed, unfamiliar with pumpkins.
Last edited by kittyalliance; Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:01pm
crunchyberries Oct 24, 2023 @ 5:04pm 
Found it. It's not a legit site; some private company out of Arizona bought the domain from the bakery (which is now Swedishhillaustin.com) through a domain registrar called namesilo.com sometime this year and updated it as a blog on 10/8/2023.

From what I can tell, they seem to be hiding their whosis info records so they can squat on the domain name and fool people into believing that Sweetish Hill is a legit blog (it's not, most of the information on it is stolen from other sites and Lorraine Wade of Austin, TX doesn't exist on social media).

That said, yeah. Let's ask the devs about this. I've spent too much time playing detective tonight just because I'm recovering from my COVID shot and curiosity killed the cat.

(PS: I brought up the cultivars as a point of familiarity, but found out later on that China is one of the biggest exporters of pumpkin seeds in the world. Life, uh, finds a way as they say.)
Last edited by crunchyberries; Oct 24, 2023 @ 7:49pm
Falaris Oct 24, 2023 @ 9:10pm 
1: The CIA world factbook doesn't mention Indonesia as producing Pumpkins.
2: Wikipedia doesn't either.
3: The UN Food and Agriculture Organization lists Indonesia as producing significant amounts of pumpkins, squash and gourds. (No subdivisions are registered.).
4: That is irrelevant, as the entire uncertainty is based on:

A: Game classifies pumpkins as a fruit, which they are.
B: Game has a picture of pumpkin juice as green vegetable juice. Which it isn't.

It could be an intentional misclassification - either because of a background quality of vegetable juice fits better, or some other reason - or it's an error.
Ray Oct 25, 2023 @ 2:11am 
Yes, pumpkins are fruits and should make fruit juice.
The game lists tomato as fruit (correct) and bell pepper as vegetable (actually also a fruit).
I think it's more to do with the common use of the item rather than the technical terms.

Originally posted by Falaris:
I am guessing that in the game, the distinction is between the fruity or vegetably flavor (and look) of a juice, and in that context, pumpkin juice would be considered vegetable juice.

Maybe, but it's not very consistent, so probably an error?
Last edited by Ray; Oct 25, 2023 @ 2:23am
segatron Nov 19, 2023 @ 5:29am 
since bananas are an herb, clearly op needs to make sure they are replaced by pumpkin slices in their fruit salads. This will alleviate this chaos.
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