Avoid the Coral Island Discord

[Kuzajin]

Apparently if your ideas for the game are not in the majority, its called arguing. Avoid a certain 3 lettered person in the discord, they wont like your idea.

[ClockNotWork]

What happen? I'm not on the discord.

[LyaranTirel]

I'm also curious. Please spill the tea

[Piperbird]

He wanted the game to be harder. Everyone else said it was a casual game that was fine the way it was, and that hard mode will probably be added with mods later, and right now the devs are working on the game itself before adding difficulty levels. He took people not immediately agreeing with him as 'arguing'.

Also, he posted it in gen chat and not in feedback, but got upset when people actually debated and didn't just agree.

[PixieStix]

bro wants ONLY osmium quality to count for the goddess donations and the discord defended the people who do not have the time to play every day where osmium just isn't an option. acting like the "goddess" should only require the best of the best

when in Indonesia- their mythology is based around *donate what you can. * instead of your best. it has nothing to do with Pix or anything else. it had everything to do with how you came across. trying to dictate how the ENTIRE population should play the game over the select few. you were given where to share your feedback if you wanted it. you just chose not to. which is hilarious to come here after pix said they dont go into the forums thinking it wouldn't be seen.

you wanted to cause more drama by only giving 1/4 of the truth.

[Dex]

ew, discord drama.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by Dex:

ew, discord drama.

There usually isn't much drama there, it's mostly people helping people out. But every now and then someone pops in to stir up trouble.

[Kuzajin]

Actually i simply stated an opinion, giving examples and calmly explaining my position, whereas the entire discord railed against the idea, telling me im dictating how everyone should play and that im arguing. I didnt know stating an opinion on a game in early access, that is meant to receive feedback, counted as arguing per Pix. Also why do people who dont have alot of time to play have more importance over those that want a harder game, both are subgroups of the playerbase. So yeah im done with that discord, liberal hotbed where if it isnt their idea, its bad.

Also if we are bringing up mythology of donations

In japan: Shinto offerings are made in order to get deities' blessings. Offerings are made of food and drinks, which should be as beautiful as pleasant to consume. The Shinto priest can be in charge of the offering, but you can also do your own offering with your home shrine. Offerings are a way to show in a visible form believers’ feelings to the deities.

Main focus being on as BEAUTIFUL as PLEASANT to consume, aka the best :) Seeing as our character is from Pokyo aka Tokyo, they would follow the Japanese way of offerings :)

[Keeper Of Monsters]

Originally posted by Kuzajin:

Actually i simply stated an opinion, giving examples and calmly explaining my position, whereas the entire discord railed against the idea, telling me im dictating how everyone should play and that im arguing. I didnt know stating an opinion on a game in early access, that is meant to receive feedback, counted as arguing per Pix. Also why do people who dont have alot of time to play have more importance over those that want a harder game, both are subgroups of the playerbase. So yeah im done with that discord, liberal hotbed where if it isnt their idea, its bad.

Also if we are bringing up mythology of donations

In japan: Shinto offerings are made in order to get deities' blessings. Offerings are made of food and drinks, which should be as beautiful as pleasant to consume. The Shinto priest can be in charge of the offering, but you can also do your own offering with your home shrine. Offerings are a way to show in a visible form believers’ feelings to the deities.

Main focus being on as BEAUTIFUL as PLEASANT to consume, aka the best :) Seeing as our character is from Pokyo aka Tokyo, they would follow the Japanese way of offerings :)

Harder game will turn away a lot of players, because farming games like Coral Island, Stardew, Harvest Moon, and others in that spirit are meant to be enjoyed at your own pace and be accessible to everyone - no matter experience, proficiency, or other parameters that falls under "git gud" that so often prevent people from even trying platformers, or fighting games, or something else. And guess what - small indy studio makes game not just because they want to or love to - though yes they do! - but they need to make money too - or project will just die. And majority of people - at least in the beginning - want a calm easy nice experience that farming sims promise. If I was told at the start that Coral Island is another Dark Souls - I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!
You think it is too easy for you - well, good for you! Play a challenge (like Tooshi in Stardew, e.g.), handicap yourself in some way - and beat the game with that handicap!
People make mods for Stardew, and Terraria, and pretty much any game - and some of those mods are incredulously hard. I'm pretty sure later, when game is released, either developers will put in different levels - or community will make mods.
But for now - please, don't force casual players to conform to some norm that other more experienced players think to be a standard.

As for beautiful and pleasant offerings - don't forget that game is not set in Japan. And yes, our character moved in from some town that might have being in some sort of Japanese setting - but might have being not. And originally they are from the Island - moved to town and then moved back. Culture in the game is not Japanese, it is different - don't force you own perception on what developers want to deliver, try to understand and accept others' believes and customs.
Also, Japan is not just Shinto, and in the Bible there is a saying about poor widow's offering that is "more than the rest of them", even though it isn't gold or other riches.
And I am pretty sure that in Japan it is so too - gods will not turn away offering from a poor person just because it is not the best, but as long as people do offer the best of what they have, with an open heart - that's what counts.

[resonance]

The player may be from Pokyo, but the Goddess isn't, and she is the one who set the requirements for offerings. You aren't showing your feelings. You are fulfilling a shopping list.

[Kuzajin]

I dont know what difficulty you all are thinking i want, all i am asking for is for the offerings to be upped, meaning you shouldnt be able to donate a base turnip, but a bronze or higher, im not asking for different gameplay or harder mechanics, im asking for the developers to not set the game to the bare minimum difficulty. You should not be able to finish the crop alter in the first year without serious effort on your farming skill.
Because once the greenhouse is available, the game goes on super easy mode, you plant strawberries and now you have a free 28,000g every 4 days. I know because i have been testing it(on fall year 4). So once you no longer have to put effort into gold, the game becomes childplay.

If people cant use fertilizer on their plants, if that is considered "dark souls" difficulty then holy hell tying your shoes must be a real challenge. I want longevity of the game, not just bam first year done, game is over. Some people actually used the arguement that most people dont play past year 3 in these kinds of games and yeah the reason is because they finish everything in the first 2 years and have nothing to do.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by Kuzajin:

I dont know what difficulty you all are thinking i want, all i am asking for is for the offerings to be upped, meaning you shouldnt be able to donate a base turnip, but a bronze or higher, im not asking for different gameplay or harder mechanics, im asking for the developers to not set the game to the bare minimum difficulty. You should not be able to finish the crop alter in the first year without serious effort on your farming skill.
Because once the greenhouse is available, the game goes on super easy mode, you plant strawberries and now you have a free 28,000g every 4 days. I know because i have been testing it(on fall year 4). So once you no longer have to put effort into gold, the game becomes childplay.

If people cant use fertilizer on their plants, if that is considered "dark souls" difficulty then holy hell tying your shoes must be a real challenge. I want longevity of the game, not just bam first year done, game is over. Some people actually used the arguement that most people dont play past year 3 in these kinds of games and yeah the reason is because they finish everything in the first 2 years and have nothing to do.

Dude, just stop. You keep bringing up just irrelevant stuff. No one cares how offerings in real life Japan work. This is game world Indonesia.

You know you can donate higher than what is asked for, right? So in YOUR game, don't donate base stuff. In YOUR game tell yourself you can only donate the best of the best to the goddess. You can do that. Greenhouse makes too much money? Don't use it. You can make YOUR game as hard mode as you want.

I don't know where you are getting the idea that the first year the game is done, either. You can complete the easiest alter by the end of the first year. That's pretty good progress. There's still three more alters after that. There's only about 40% of the game released right now. The tree planting event is one that is supposed to last 5 years. If you think you're done at the end of year one, you're either just giving up or not doing all the game has to offer.

You weren't having a conversation in discord. Just like here you are argumentative, you've resorted to making fun of people for not thinking the game should be the way you like it, you weren't happy that everyone simply didn't agree with your opinion.

Play your game on hard mode, go for it. Leave everyone else alone.

[LyaranTirel]

Originally posted by Kuzajin:

Actually i simply stated an opinion, giving examples and calmly explaining my position, whereas the entire discord railed against the idea, telling me im dictating how everyone should play and that im arguing. I didnt know stating an opinion on a game in early access, that is meant to receive feedback, counted as arguing per Pix. Also why do people who dont have alot of time to play have more importance over those that want a harder game, both are subgroups of the playerbase. So yeah im done with that discord, liberal hotbed where if it isnt their idea, its bad.

Also if we are bringing up mythology of donations

In japan: Shinto offerings are made in order to get deities' blessings. Offerings are made of food and drinks, which should be as beautiful as pleasant to consume. The Shinto priest can be in charge of the offering, but you can also do your own offering with your home shrine. Offerings are a way to show in a visible form believers’ feelings to the deities.

Main focus being on as BEAUTIFUL as PLEASANT to consume, aka the best :) Seeing as our character is from Pokyo aka Tokyo, they would follow the Japanese way of offerings :)

Not taking sides here, but dude.... You DO realise that this game is everything BUT japanese oriented, right? This game is exactly to deviant from the originaly japanese games like Harvest Moon?
Also, in many cultures including Brasilian, gifts and offerings are much more about intent than 'beautyful', specially to Yemanja. If a person with 100 dollars on their pocket donate 20 and a person with 10 on their pocket donate 10, it's the 10 dollars that will be considered the 'beautiful' offering.

[ClockNotWork]

Originally posted by Kuzajin:

Actually i simply stated an opinion, giving examples and calmly explaining my position, whereas the entire discord railed against the idea, telling me im dictating how everyone should play and that im arguing. I didnt know stating an opinion on a game in early access, that is meant to receive feedback, counted as arguing per Pix. Also why do people who dont have alot of time to play have more importance over those that want a harder game, both are subgroups of the playerbase. So yeah im done with that discord, liberal hotbed where if it isnt their idea, its bad.

Also if we are bringing up mythology of donations

In japan: Shinto offerings are made in order to get deities' blessings. Offerings are made of food and drinks, which should be as beautiful as pleasant to consume. The Shinto priest can be in charge of the offering, but you can also do your own offering with your home shrine. Offerings are a way to show in a visible form believers’ feelings to the deities.

Main focus being on as BEAUTIFUL as PLEASANT to consume, aka the best :) Seeing as our character is from Pokyo aka Tokyo, they would follow the Japanese way of offerings :)

"liberal hotbed" Okay yikes( @op)... that's all I needed to read. Anyway moving on. (from this dumb post.) (edited for clarification.)

[PixieStix]

Originally posted by ClockNotWork:

Originally posted by Kuzajin:

Actually i simply stated an opinion, giving examples and calmly explaining my position, whereas the entire discord railed against the idea, telling me im dictating how everyone should play and that im arguing. I didnt know stating an opinion on a game in early access, that is meant to receive feedback, counted as arguing per Pix. Also why do people who dont have alot of time to play have more importance over those that want a harder game, both are subgroups of the playerbase. So yeah im done with that discord, liberal hotbed where if it isnt their idea, its bad.

Also if we are bringing up mythology of donations

In japan: Shinto offerings are made in order to get deities' blessings. Offerings are made of food and drinks, which should be as beautiful as pleasant to consume. The Shinto priest can be in charge of the offering, but you can also do your own offering with your home shrine. Offerings are a way to show in a visible form believers’ feelings to the deities.

Main focus being on as BEAUTIFUL as PLEASANT to consume, aka the best :) Seeing as our character is from Pokyo aka Tokyo, they would follow the Japanese way of offerings :)

"liberal hotbed" Okay yikes... that's all I needed to read. Anyway moving on.

it's not though- it's really not LOL

[Kuzajin]

Just dont come crying when you beat the game in a month saying there isnt enough content, when you beat everything. God forbid players put any effort in their gameplay. Hell might as well take away watering, dont want to have more mechanics that players have to do. If the developers want to make a game made for 5 year olds thats on them.