Long wait time for artisan products

[wrdokddo]

Is it just me or it now takes more than 12 hours for one jar to finish making yogurt? Same goes for the keg, the mayonnaise machine, etc. It's very frustrating! All the coins I'm losing.

I'm very happy with the additions, but if this is artisan thing is permanent, it's very discouraging.

[Laskaris]

it's so depressing. I made so much money off artisan products, and now...

[Padgey]

You can still make the same money but you have to be more patient that’s all, I guess the devs don’t want you to be able to make money to quickly, same with them nerfing sharks in summer, best thing to do is make more kegs etc and store your goods in a chest then just do them every day

[knueppelDave]

I do not find it dramatic. If you need more production just craft more machines. I feel endgame bases/farms might look like artisan machine sim city, but on the other hand they just generate free money, so it's fair.
Question is why someone would pay 50% more for a juice rather than a fresh fruit, but I think the bottle has a "superfood" sticker on it.

[Piperbird]

I have 12 each mason jars, kegs, and beehives, and I can't keep up with the produce I'm growing now. I'm losing money selling the raw product simply because I can't get it through makers fast enough. I don't want a farm with rows of 50 makers on it.

I also have to make sure to sell at Sam's, because I over fill my shipping bin every day.

[GoodFaery]

Try cooking your produce instead of using machines. Apparently it sells pretty well and still a profit over base item.

[wyldfae28]

Originally posted by Laskaris:

it's so depressing. I made so much money off artisan products, and now... [/quote

I agree. They took away shark harvesting, which was a really good way to make some progress in the first year when you're dirt poor and need backpack space and home renovations. The only other way I was making serious money was artisan goods. It already took forever to make wine, which is the best money maker. But worth it. Now even my mayo machine, yogurt machine, bee hives and mason jars take soooo long. Add to that everything is more expensive now. At Sam's, even at the coffee shop. Seems like making it harder to make money and then making stuff cost more is a bit brutal. I guess I'll see how it impacts my cash flow.

[wyldfae28]

Originally posted by Padgey:

You can still make the same money but you have to be more patient that’s all, I guess the devs don’t want you to be able to make money to quickly, same with them nerfing sharks in summer, best thing to do is make more kegs etc and store your goods in a chest then just do them every day

After playing several more days of the update, I REALLY hate how long it takes for artisan goods to be produced. With three hens and three cows, I'm taking in 3 eggs and milk every day. It now takes my mayo, yogurt, and mason jars an entire day to make 1 yogurt, butter, or mayo. I am shipping a third or less of what I was every day if you factor in the kegs and beehives. I was looking forward to decorating my farm now that I've got 9 kegs, 8 beehives, and a couple of the other artisan machines running. But instead I'm having to build more chests to hold all the raw goods I was processing before. Or I'll have to sell them for much less cash. I think this is now out of balance. Curious to see what others think.

[RazgrizBlackwolf]

I'm glad I pushed hard on advancing before the update mostly ignoring npc interaction and concentrating on making money.

Currently sitting at 3.2 million monies
20 beehives
69 kegs
45 mason jars

and this really isn't enough to keep up with crop production from 37 level 1 and 46 level 2 sprinklers with the artisan production being slowed.

As I don't really get much in the way of production from my animal buildings I will be selling off the animals and buildings to make space for more hives, kegs and jars.

Of course the alternative option is to reduce crop production to match current artisan production rates but that would likely mean reducing my crop area by about 50-60% but I like to utilise as much farm space as possible.

Biggest issue I find with this is the mastery levels have now been locked at 5 so I have lost 5 levels from all the mastery lines losing access to the loom etc so I can't make more to expand production of these products.

I can see why it's been done to essentially extend the playtime required to reach higher tiers and get to end game and give people something to keep working for but it is just a little annoying losing access to something that had already been unlocked.

On the bright side it could have been worse, there could have been a forced wipe of peoples saves. That would have made me stop playing for quite a while as I wouldn't want to start again with the current changes to artisan timings knowing what it was like previously.

There is of course a solution they could give us a farm building option to put our artisan machines inside that has a bigger internal space compared to the external footprint, a few of these would allow more artisan machines to be installed without sacrificing too much external space that could be used for other things like animals, decorations and tree growing. Although to be fair i'm not sure what they have planned for future development there could be a level 2 version of the artisan machines in the works which would partly explain the changes to the current timings we shall have to wait and see. :)

Now it's back to the farm for me these crops won't process themselves :P

[Piperbird]

I could see the logic of them wanting to slow down our money production, IF the furniture and clothing weren't so expensive. And they even raised the prices on a lot of those.

They're basically saying, no, you can't decorate your farm as early as you like, we've gated that now.

Which is also pointless, because we have to fill the farm with artisan makers, so where will there be room left to decorate?

[wyldfae28]

Originally posted by Piperbird:

I could see the logic of them wanting to slow down our money production, IF the furniture and clothing weren't so expensive. And they even raised the prices on a lot of those.

They're basically saying, no, you can't decorate your farm as early as you like, we've gated that now.

Which is also pointless, because we have to fill the farm with artisan makers, so where will there be room left to decorate?

Agree. Also, the problem with slowing cash production via artisan machines is that you can't keep up with the flow of crops and animal goods unless you make scads of machines. I want this to look like a farm, not a factory. I have 12 kegs now, 8 beehives and a few each of the yogurt and mason jars. Only 2 mayo makers. Honestly , I don't want any more. I have one loom, which it seems I was lucky to keep, and an oil maker. This was perfectly sufficient to keep my production humming along reasonably well. Probably need a couple more mason jars eventually. This is about all I can keep up with and still have time for other things.

I also want to decorate my farm with areas that aren't devoted to machinery. Like a grove of fruit trees at some point. A little forest. A picnic area. That kind of thing. What's the point of giving us lovely outdoor furniture if we have to take up the whole farm with artisan production? I have about 160,000 in cash currently. I don't really have the need to become a millionaire. As long as I make enough to buy furniture, clothes, and decorations for my farm I'm happy. But with the way they've changed artisan production, and upped the prices for like everything, it's just going to be frustrating. I'm only making about 680 now for a bottle of wine that takes high quality grapes enhanced by silver kelp essence and takes days to produce in a keg that cost materials to make. It costs that much now for a slice of pizza. How is this logical?

[wyldfae28]

Originally posted by RazgrizBlackwolf:

I'm glad I pushed hard on advancing before the update mostly ignoring npc interaction and concentrating on making money.

Currently sitting at 3.2 million monies
20 beehives
69 kegs
45 mason jars

and this really isn't enough to keep up with crop production from 37 level 1 and 46 level 2 sprinklers with the artisan production being slowed.

0_0 How in the world do you keep up with that many machines? Or that many crops? I am amazed. Lol. That would make me crazy. Congrats on being a multimillionaire. But you've kind of arrived. Where is there to go from there income wise? You could now lie on the beach with whomever you've chosen as a mate and drink Frank's wine for the rest of the game.

[RazgrizBlackwolf]

Originally posted by wyldfae28:

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0_0 How in the world do you keep up with that many machines? Or that many crops? I am amazed. Lol. That would make me crazy. Congrats on being a multimillionaire. But you've kind of arrived. Where is there to go from there income wise? You could now lie on the beach with whomever you've chosen as a mate and drink Frank's wine for the rest of the game.

Access to all the level 2 sprinklers and the scythe for harvesting is what makes it easy to keep up with the crops as no manual watering is required beyond repairing any damage from season changes or space junk falling from the sky.

The machines is just practice, timing movement and button pressing to try and be efficient at collecting and refilling the machines without the need to stop too often.

As you've mentioned I have the money in the bank to essentially retire to the beach with an infinite supply of wine, beer and sake so once i've finished testing to see how many of each machine is needed to keep up with my crop production now the machines have been slowed i'll probably shrink my farm down to just 6-8 level 2 sprinklers outside and the 6 in my greenhouse and however many machines are needed to keep up with them and probably just leave the rest of my farm to it's own devices.

That way I can spend more time just enjoying the island and the seasonal activities as they get added to the game and the farming will just become a secondary activity.

[ece]

i really hate it too... i mean we arent saying that it must be so fast but it shouldnt be that slow!

[TaraLilyRose]

I feel like it shouldn't take more than 8 hours (gaming time) for the food to finish processing so at least at the end of the day we get some goods. Now I don't even know how long making one mayo or butter takes.

[Juan]

I have a question, what game are you guys playing? because none of that I see in my game. honeycombs, wine where is all that? XD