New OOBs

[[BFs]Karaya 1]

So i wanted to deploy some Medium tank Armys. But i cant. Whats the prerequisite to unlocking them ? I can only deploy them as independent. There also isnt an "Armor" anything available to unlock ?

[Pain]

You need to research the corresponding OOB first with the Staff Council.

[[BFs]Karaya 1]

Originally posted by Pain:

You need to research the corresponding OOB first with the Staff Council.

Im aware but its not avaiable. What is the prerequisite for medium tank armys ? Ive looked the last 3 times i finished with other types of OOBs, but its just not there.

Similarly, i have a model for transport aircraft, but i cant deploy them either. How do i reserach new independent stuff ? Is that even possible ?

[OznerpaG]

OOBs are like tech where they need to be discovered first, then you can research them

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

You can always deploy independent units, with aircraft the airfield does need to be high enough level but that is the only requirement. APCs and trucks are the exception.

[[BFs]Karaya 1]

Originally posted by OznerpaG:

OOBs are like tech where they need to be discovered first, then you can research them

I know that, i guess since i havent discovered anything in the last 40 turns or so unless i had finished some prerequisite i was just assuming that i would have discovered it by now.

The only time i had discovered new OOBs was when i finished some assault infantry army or something like that, which then unlocked the motorized or mechanized versions of it.

Ive noticed in the tech tree that some of the earlier techs just refused to be discovered until i focused on them and even then it took ages. I was researching walkers and photonic mines, but just didnt discover heavy combat armor for instance.

Is there an overview where i can check what i can discover like models or tech ?

[OznerpaG]

Originally posted by BFsKaraya 1:

Originally posted by OznerpaG:

OOBs are like tech where they need to be discovered first, then you can research them

I know that, i guess since i havent discovered anything in the last 40 turns or so unless i had finished some prerequisite i was just assuming that i would have discovered it by now.

The only time i had discovered new OOBs was when i finished some assault infantry army or something like that, which then unlocked the motorized or mechanized versions of it.

Ive noticed in the tech tree that some of the earlier techs just refused to be discovered until i focused on them and even then it took ages. I was researching walkers and photonic mines, but just didnt discover heavy combat armor for instance.

Is there an overview where i can check what i can discover like models or tech ?

The best guide there is
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2356256019

the matrix site has the same but with a list version as well
https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4654643#p4654643

the best advice is to never design models you don't intend to use because that will make the pool of discoverable OOBs (and models) bigger

For example if you start at lvl3 tech and wanted med tanks, and your model design council discovered artillery, it is a bad idea to design an arty model because that opens up AT guns and mech arty which (unless you get lucky) adds 2 more models and OOBs that could get discovered before getting light tanks and then med tanks

Same applies for tech - discover all the techs you want in a tech group first before researching the 4th tech, which opens up new tech groups and Waters down the chances of discovering older techs

Of course heavy combat Armour has a prerequisite (polymer) that's all the way on the other side of the tech tree so techs like that are trickier to get

if you can get discovery up to 100 BPs per turn for the desired council that's the best and fastest you can hope for - over 100 BPs the bang for your BPs goes way down