Ruins Clarification

[Angela Deth]

I don't how the Ruins work. I can put a recycling factory on a hex and get resources in return but no other obvious gains but that appears to be counterproductive as I can gain twice that amount if placed in a city hex. Do they have to be developed in this manner or is there some unstated return if left in its static state? Additionally I have a ruin hex with a gold pyramid on it that offers some artifact gain but im not sure what to do with it to get whatever the reward.

Thanks in advance for whatever you can offer.

[Painman]

Re the pyramid part of your q, a site with a pyramid on it will occasionally throw up a card giving you a tech bonus. These are usually really great. The colour scheme denotes how rare the card is. You can find out how rare by looking in the archaeology report IIRC. So basically, you just have to wait whilst you manage the million other things demanding your attention.

Re the resources part, um, well you need to mine ruins to gain resources (kinda fundamental) and you won't always want to be founding a new city on a ruin hex to mine those resources. In fact, I don't think I've ever founded a city to mine a hex so perhaps that's something I need to think about. Seems a bit de trop to me, but hey, what do I know?

[George The Ork]

I think, and i'm not 100% sure, recycling mines can collect from 1-2 tiles away from where they are placed?

So you should try and avoid strip mining the old mega cities and instead spread them out.

[CHOO CHOO]

Originally posted by Emperor Grog The Drunk:

I think, and i'm not 100% sure, recycling mines can collect from 1-2 tiles away from where they are placed?

So you should try and avoid strip mining the old mega cities and instead spread them out.

Interesting, but I never heard of such a thing. Do you think you could scrounge up a source for that?

[Kadrush]

Ruins are your main source or metals/rare metals until you can prospect some metal mines and research soil demetalization, Starting close to a few ruin hexes usually is enough to support your early game.

[maerchen]

Ruins give an adjacency bonus to recyclers. page 199 manual

5.5.2.4. sCavenGInGrulesYou can find scavengeable Items in Ruins Hexes. Build an appropriate Asset in such a Hex and you can extract Items as long as Scavenge Points remain in the Hex.

Rich Scavenging Area Rule You’ll get +25% extra Scavenge Items for each scavengeable Hex directly around the Assets Hex and +10% for such Hexes at range 2.

Don't strip mine your ruins!

And as Kadrush pointed out, recyclers give you early game rare metals for the trader.

[i do games]

Also Ruins hexes with artifacts on them (the pyramid icons) can mine Machines and Hi-tech parts, but I don't know the probabilities. It seems like I get Hi-tech parts from the rarer sites and Machines from any hex with artifacts on it.

Some turns I just get the regular resources and sometimes the 'extras'. Also the Recycler level might determine these extra gains, so I just build at least a lvl 2 on all Artifact hexes.

[Angela Deth]

Thanks all for your input...sheds alot of info on things