Shadow Empire

Shadow Empire

Coffee Jun 8, 2020 @ 3:26pm
Best planet generation to generate life on desert (seth) world?
Been re-rolling for 6 hours now and no life yet on seth world. Though I've taken a couple half hour breaks to eat and short breaks to do stuff so not entirely 6 hours.

But I've been trying to stick in the 20s temp, around 1 gravity, earth-type atmosphere, old planet (billions) and haven't had much luck.

Is there a better stats to look for to have a higher chance to generate desert life? Maybe higher/lower temp, lower gravity or something? Or do I just need to keep rerolling?
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Coffee Jun 8, 2020 @ 4:51pm 
Interesting. The lava planet cerberus can have algae, moss, grass and (primitive) lifeforms. Mine generated grass and moss, and had a primitive herbivore. The way I generated it was largest size, low 40 temp (did 43 degrees, lowest I've seen generation go is 40 which is better) and also (probably) needs to be 1+ billion year old planet. Older planets tend to have better life. Gravity was around 1 but forgot exactly the number. And then get...life on a magma world...no idea how, but it looks cool
I also love desert worlds, but Seth I don't believe starts with life on planet gen, but it can have giant spider enemies, which might be what the manual is referring to. Let me know if you ever find life on planet gen!

I prefer dry Limos class, since I believe that while life is very rare, humans would avoid planets that are terrible to live on... although having those options is great.
Last edited by ☢Dιαмση∂ѕρι∂єя☢; Jun 8, 2020 @ 6:34pm
eddieballgame Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:17pm 
Per the 'tool tip' for the Seth Class:
"It is rare, but possible they host an Alien biology with non water-based type of life."

I would like to see the 'rare' setting be adjusted up to allow for such things; (ex: Arrakis & worms) or at least an option to do so for one's enjoyment.

Per a user in the Matrix forums;
I've got a Seth planet currently with a grass analog, and supposedly a herbivore (not seen it yet). So it is possible.
Quite nice actually, it's a red and green planet
Last edited by eddieballgame; Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:25am
FireShark Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by eddieballgame:
Per a user in the Matrix forums;
I've got a Seth planet currently with a grass analog, and supposedly a herbivore (not seen it yet). So it is possible.
Quite nice actually, it's a red and green planet

Is that guy on the latest beta patch? It's now possible to share planet seeds.
eddieballgame Jun 8, 2020 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by FireShark:
Originally posted by eddieballgame:
Per a user in the Matrix forums;
I've got a Seth planet currently with a grass analog, and supposedly a herbivore (not seen it yet). So it is possible.
Quite nice actually, it's a red and green planet

Is that guy on the latest beta patch? It's now possible to share planet seeds.

Interesting, as I am unaware of the 'map seed' addition.
There was talk of it, but due to the multiple screens involved in the planet generation process, it has not been implemented yet. (or so I think)
I am using the latest beta 4 patch & do not see where that is an option.
Of course...missing something is not that hard, for me, to do. :)
Last edited by eddieballgame; Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:26am
Coffee Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:17pm 
Originally posted by eddieballgame:
Per the 'tool tip' for the Seth Class:
"It is rare, but possible they host an Alien biology with non water-based type of life."
I would like to see the 'rare' setting be adjusted up to allow for such things; (ex: Arrakis & worms) or at least an option to do so for one's enjoyment.

Per a user in the Matrix forums;
I've got a Seth planet currently with a grass analog, and supposedly a herbivore (not seen it yet). So it is possible.
Quite nice actually, it's a red and green planet

In another post they edited that it was cerberus, which in my first follow up reply is likely what they meant seeing they edited this post...

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4826169

Cerberus is a lava planet, but between 40 degrees (best) to 45 (worse but gets life), around 1 gravity, and earth-like atmosphere, despite 0 water at all no rain and magma everywhere...I guess its just barely cool enough to support moss/grass if you regen the biome enough. One of the cerberus I generated even had roaming tiny herbivores supposedly, but never saw them.
Last edited by Coffee; Jun 8, 2020 @ 11:35pm
Coffee Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:08am 
Here is how the cerberus looks in this gen, one of the better ones I've had

https://i.imgur.com/qBGqKxw.png

Also the magma rivers are going through grass and moss :P
Last edited by Coffee; Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:10am
FireShark Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:25am 
Would be possible to get a Cerberus like that but on an older planet with no magma?

I think around 5+ billion there are no magma / lava pools.
Coffee Jun 9, 2020 @ 1:41am 
Originally posted by FireShark:
Would be possible to get a Cerberus like that but on an older planet with no magma?

I think around 5+ billion there are no magma / lava pools.

Yup, I got that one gen (so far been having a lot of fun just seeing what I can generate lol). The whole planet however was blue instead of green and had actual meadows, but no magma.
Coffee Jun 10, 2020 @ 1:31pm 
Well either people on the forums are mistaken on the planet or its an insider joke

14-15 real life continuous hours (thats not counting the breaks in between) since game launched. Not a single hint of life. Problem is oxygen never generates, and unlike Cerberus which gets oxygen to support life, Seth never does.

So I've come to a realization that I wasted more than half a day on something not possible what so ever.

Never been so disappointed :( Makes me not want to play tbh. Not specifically because of Seth, but because of the insider joke/prank. Hopefully in the future there is more planet customization.
smidlee Jun 10, 2020 @ 2:49pm 
Originally posted by Neferata:
Well either people on the forums are mistaken on the planet or its an insider joke

Never been so disappointed :( Makes me not want to play tbh. Not specifically because of Seth, but because of the insider joke/prank. Hopefully in the future there is more planet customization.
TortugaPower who tried to get as close to Arrakis (Dune) as possible and claimed Dastactics show him a desert map with the sandworms. Das didn't play it and it was one of the earlier version.
At the beginning of this video is where he mention it : https://youtu.be/V6woAZv4vn8
Last edited by smidlee; Jun 10, 2020 @ 2:50pm
Coffee Jun 10, 2020 @ 4:06pm 
Originally posted by smidlee:
Originally posted by Neferata:
Well either people on the forums are mistaken on the planet or its an insider joke

Never been so disappointed :( Makes me not want to play tbh. Not specifically because of Seth, but because of the insider joke/prank. Hopefully in the future there is more planet customization.
TortugaPower who tried to get as close to Arrakis (Dune) as possible and claimed Dastactics show him a desert map with the sandworms. Das didn't play it and it was one of the earlier version.
At the beginning of this video is where he mention it : https://youtu.be/V6woAZv4vn8

People said they've seen one. No ones shown a picture or shared their game of one. I find it hard to belief it exists after trying for 15-16 hours over and over and over and over trying to get a seth world to generate worms. I still think its an inside joke to get people to waste their time generating it.

I think boreus or whatever cold planet is named the same as seth, no life at all. I've had 0 temp and pretty warm cold planet and life also never showed up, but I haven't spent nearly as much time on that one as trying to get seth to get life.

That or its a bug in my world generation game that only effects me and a small group of people who can't generate life on certain planets.
smidlee Jun 10, 2020 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Neferata:

People said they've seen one. No ones shown a picture or shared their game of one. I find it hard to belief it exists after trying for 15-16 hours over and over and over and over trying to get a seth world to generate worms. I still think its an inside joke to get people to waste their time generating it.

I think boreus or whatever cold planet is named the same as seth, no life at all. I've had 0 temp and pretty warm cold planet and life also never showed up, but I haven't spent nearly as much time on that one as trying to get seth to get life.

That or its a bug in my world generation game that only effects me and a small group of people who can't generate life on certain planets.
I doubt Dastactics would lie about that. Like TortugaPower said it was an earlier version. TP tried to get some life on Seth.
Last edited by smidlee; Jun 10, 2020 @ 4:18pm
Coffee Jun 10, 2020 @ 4:53pm 
I'm guessing it was possible back then when he saw it, but then something changed at release. Its just too impossible to get it, after 15 hours pretty sure just not possible at some point

Biggest planet size (bigger has better chance of life)
Oldest planet age (oldest has better chance of life)
roughly 25-40 planet temp (it was 25-30 roughly, but the magma world has life at 40-43 planet degrees so that means life can appear at pretty warm planet temps)
around 1 gravity
Earth-like atmosphere (tried heavy atmosphere and didn't seem as good)

so many times just not possible anymore. I'm guessing if dastactic got it before, that something changed since then.
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