Shadow Empire

Shadow Empire

Legend28 May 7, 2020 @ 8:39am
Exclusive matrix games
O really, you guys starting anti consumer practice too now?
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redwitch May 29, 2020 @ 10:04am 
the price is not as issue, at least for me, developers deserve to get a fair reward for their hard work
misterblort May 29, 2020 @ 1:48pm 
The price is the price. You either pay for it or you don't. No-one will care either way.
You can buy it on their store so they get 100% of the revenue, you can play on release and you will receive a steam key for free when it gets released on steam.
I see that as an absolute win..
terror51247 May 29, 2020 @ 2:31pm 
40 Dollars is too much in my country. I have to buy it on steam because of regional pricing. I wonder how long its going to take for it to come to steam...
FireShark May 29, 2020 @ 5:36pm 
Probably 3-5 months. This is not like Epic Game Store. It won't be a year or even 6 months.
viranto May 31, 2020 @ 8:17am 
A sh**. Have read this now. Okay, but this means more money for the steam summersale next month.

And later this year or next year i buy the game. Sadly the matrix store is only in english and i will never buy anything on a site with a other language than my own.
Last edited by viranto; May 31, 2020 @ 8:18am
Cordell Jun 1, 2020 @ 9:27am 
Putting my wallet away, and here is why. Years ago I purchased a game from Matrix Games called Pandora. Probably 6 or 7 years ago. I played it for a while, forgot about it, remembered I owned it and could not recover it from any email that I would have used when I purchased this. I contacted them about recovery etc... and finally just gave up and moved on to play something else. The game was not that great and it was not worth the effort.

I have too many games that I've lost over the years (not from Matrix). Most of you probably did not have to deal with D2D, Gamefly and all the mergers that went on. Guess what, when they merged I lost games! I had another account on Gamestop, it got hacked, they took the games off that were purchased when it got hacked, along with several games that I did purchase. They fixed it again, but instead of adding the games I purchased they added some things back in that I did not purchase, and was not interested in. End of Gamestop online purchases. I've never had any issues with Steam that were not instantly resolved.

I'll stick to Steam. 30 years of online gaming has taught me some valuable lessons. I might look at this in a year or two who knows?

Also Matrix clearly does not understand Sam Walton and Moon Pies....
Last edited by Cordell; Jun 1, 2020 @ 10:32am
jwarrenw13 Jun 1, 2020 @ 10:43am 
Buy it from Matrix Thursday and get a Steam key when it comes out on Steam, wait and buy it when it comes out on Steam, or don't buy it. This all seems pretty simple.
Legend28 Jun 1, 2020 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by jwarrenw13:
Buy it from Matrix Thursday and get a Steam key when it comes out on Steam, wait and buy it when it comes out on Steam, or don't buy it. This all seems pretty simple.

Simple it is indeed, i dont suports monopolies on anything and finde epic game store tactics disgusting. I see this like epic move from matrix and will reconsider suporting matrix games as well
Pat Jun 1, 2020 @ 3:49pm 
Originally posted by Cordell:
Putting my wallet away, and here is why. Years ago I purchased a game from Matrix Games called Pandora. Probably 6 or 7 years ago. I played it for a while, forgot about it, remembered I owned it and could not recover it from any email that I would have used when I purchased this. I contacted them about recovery etc... and finally just gave up and moved on to play something else. The game was not that great and it was not worth the effort.

I have too many games that I've lost over the years (not from Matrix). Most of you probably did not have to deal with D2D, Gamefly and all the mergers that went on. Guess what, when they merged I lost games! I had another account on Gamestop, it got hacked, they took the games off that were purchased when it got hacked, along with several games that I did purchase. They fixed it again, but instead of adding the games I purchased they added some things back in that I did not purchase, and was not interested in. End of Gamestop online purchases. I've never had any issues with Steam that were not instantly resolved.

I'll stick to Steam. 30 years of online gaming has taught me some valuable lessons. I might look at this in a year or two who knows?

Also Matrix clearly does not understand Sam Walton and Moon Pies....
Cool story.
FireShark Jun 1, 2020 @ 7:40pm 
Originally posted by Cordell:
Putting my wallet away, and here is why. Years ago I purchased a game from Matrix Games called Pandora. Probably 6 or 7 years ago. I played it for a while, forgot about it, remembered I owned it and could not recover it from any email that I would have used when I purchased this. I contacted them about recovery etc... and finally just gave up and moved on to play something else. The game was not that great and it was not worth the effort.

That's the complete opposite of my experience with Matrix. I too needed to recover an old account last year and had no email access or really much info to give them. It took a few days, but they got it sorted out, all of my games were restored, and I was even retroactively given Steam keys for games that didn't even have Steam keys when I first purchased them.

I have no complaints with their service on that front.
FireShark Jun 1, 2020 @ 7:43pm 
Originally posted by Legend28:
Originally posted by jwarrenw13:
Buy it from Matrix Thursday and get a Steam key when it comes out on Steam, wait and buy it when it comes out on Steam, or don't buy it. This all seems pretty simple.

Simple it is indeed, i dont suports monopolies on anything and finde epic game store tactics disgusting. I see this like epic move from matrix and will reconsider suporting matrix games as well

Is Matrix bribing companies that never released on their store before to have long exclusivity deals? No, the developer of this game has released every single one of his games on Matrix first since nearly 10 years ago. This is nothing new.

Matrix will even give you a Steam key to use later. Does Epic give out Steam keys for games you buy on Epic? Not a chance.
The Doctor Jun 2, 2020 @ 1:30am 
Originally posted by Legend28:
Originally posted by jwarrenw13:
Buy it from Matrix Thursday and get a Steam key when it comes out on Steam, wait and buy it when it comes out on Steam, or don't buy it. This all seems pretty simple.

Simple it is indeed, i dont suports monopolies on anything and finde epic game store tactics disgusting. I see this like epic move from matrix and will reconsider suporting matrix games as well
It's not an Epic move at all. Matrix have been making high quality strategy and wargames for the best part of two decades now, probably even longer and their games have always been Matrix store exclusives.

But then, about 5 or more years ago, they listened to their customers and saw the potential of selling on Steam and they offer some of their games here as well. (Not all. There are quite a few for which there is no Steam key available.)

So they share the works of their development teams with Steam too and Steam takes 30% of the price of a game for themselves. So why not just relax and understand that, for a while at least, both the developer and the publisher can reap the full benefit of their work and not give 30% of it to a third party when they already provide the same download service themselves.

You don't have to buy direct from Matrix's store if that offends you for some reason and just wait another week/month/whatever until it is available here and then you can buy it from your favourite store. It's not an exclusive forever.
jwarrenw13 Jun 2, 2020 @ 12:05pm 
Originally posted by Legend28:
Originally posted by jwarrenw13:
Buy it from Matrix Thursday and get a Steam key when it comes out on Steam, wait and buy it when it comes out on Steam, or don't buy it. This all seems pretty simple.

Simple it is indeed, i dont suports monopolies on anything and finde epic game store tactics disgusting. I see this like epic move from matrix and will reconsider suporting matrix games as well

I just see a solid business model from a wargame specialist company that has been in existence since 1999. There is nothing nefarious or disgusting in their current business model -- release on Matrix first, then on Steam later for some of their games. Others remain exclusive to Matrix. With this game, you can buy it now (Thursday) from Matrix or from Steam later. How is this "disgusting?"
gsimonsen Jun 2, 2020 @ 4:49pm 
I will buy this game from Matrix, and use the Steam key when it is available. The Matrix games customer service for me has been exceptional. After a hard drive crash, they allowed me to download games from a special page set up for me, for games I purchased from Matrix over 10 years ago that they no longer sell on site.

I love Steam,, love the ease of updates and have a huge library (over 1500 titles) here, but Matrix has earned my business (over 50 titles) and respect over many years. Supporting them with a direct purchase is an easy call for me.

This post made me realize what an old geezer I am.
Last edited by gsimonsen; Jun 2, 2020 @ 4:50pm
eddieballgame Jun 2, 2020 @ 5:02pm 
I always purchase Slitherine & Matrix products from them & 99% of the time I get a Steam Key. ( if I want it, mainly to post & download some mods)
Why...simple, I then have complete control over my purchase.
Great service & a great community of active players per their titles.

Steam is fine, however, no internet, then no game play.
BTW, you should never lose your Slitherine or Matrix downloads as your Membership Page stores everything.
Of course, you could always store them on your computer or a flash drive.
Last edited by eddieballgame; Jun 2, 2020 @ 5:02pm
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