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How does the weather and day night system work ?
I could have sworn i read when you log in at 6pm its 6pm in game and when you log in at 10 am its 10 am in game, if so I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loveeeee this. How does the weather work ? is it it organic in the sense random weather or are certain areas zones tied to certain static conditions, like its always raining in zone A and always sunny in zone B
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Genghis Pawn Oct 9, 2021 @ 7:58pm 
Exhaustive/Exhausting reply incoming. <EDIT: See also a followup further down this thread.>

I'll preface this by saying there's been a few patches since I put in much playtime, so comments below regarding weather (fog and rain) may be out-of-date.

Weather: at the moment falls into two or three categories (to my knowledge):
  1. Rain:
    • Not tied to specific screens; it can begin raining or finish raining while you're on a screen, and rain can span multiple screens.
    • Not short-lived when it happens; I've had up to maybe ~2 hour play sessions where it's raining pretty consistently, even if I travel around a bit.
    • Sometimes buggy. When it rains you get a "wet" effect card put on you, which has the effect that your energy ("health," roughly) drains more quickly, forcing you to rest and/or eat more often. You sometimes get that effect card even if there is no visual/audio indication of rain, and you sometimes get the visual/audio indication of rain without the "wet" effect.
  2. Fog:
    • Nothing to take lightly: fog has a significant visual impact, limiting your ability to easily discern what's going on on-screen.
    • Also can come and go while you're on a screen.
    • Also can occur across multiple screens, but generally feels more short-lived than rain.
  3. Night:
      You might not normally think of this as "weather," but playing during night:
    • puts a "night" effect card on you, which has the effect that your energy ("health," roughly) drains more quickly, forcing you to rest and/or eat more often
      and
    • is intended to signal greater danger outside of towns and off the main road.
    • Night is pervasive across the world and long-lasting: from in-game dusk to in-game dawn.

2024 EDIT
    Jan 2 2024: This thread has just been necro'd. Everything I wrote below about Game Time back in early early EA was confusion. The devs want every server in a region to be locked to the same time. They forced this change. You will not be able to log into different servers in your region and find different times. That's how it worked at launch, but they regarded it as a "bug" and "fixed" it.
In-Game Time is tricky:
    Ever since at least as far back as this "Fireside Chat" video from July 20, 2021 (<~link has a timestamp to relevant portion), the idea has been that in-game time is on a normal calendar (Monday IRL is Monday in-game) on a roughly 24h cycle, but the in-game 24h cycle is somehow "shifted" to help players hit all spans of in-game time if they want to.
    I play on US servers. A couple weeks ago there were usually only 2 servers per region, but right now there are 7 or 8 US servers available to me. There also used to be only 2 regions (US and EUR) but there are now servers for Asia as well.
    I just logged into all US servers to check the in-game time, which you can do using a lite "debug" screen, which you can access by pressing the right Alt (or AltGr) key.
    When I started this next step my local time corresponded to ~7:20pm/19:20 US west coast, or ~10:20pm/22:20 US east coast. As I logged in, the in-game times for each server were listed as follows:
    • Server 1: "Wind Pattern Forest" -- 21:23 (night)
    • Server 2: "Kasa Heath" -- 21:21 (night)
    • Server 3: "Jar Hill" -- 21:31 (night)
    • Server 4: "Point Bura" -- 23:31 (night)
    • Server 5: "Factory Island" -- 23:36 (night)
    • Server 6: "Lokid Station" -- 23:05 (night)
    • Server 7: "Tiga Rock" -- 23:48 (night)
    • Server 8: "Foundation Ridge" --23:48 (night)
      As I was doing this, another server appeared in my list with a single player space open:
    • Server 9: The Hungry voice: "20:58 (night)
    As you can see, there's a variance of about 3 in-game hours across all servers, and they don't correspond precisely to any US time zone.
    This is far less variance than I thought I had observed when playing earlier in the beta. At that time, it was not uncommon for 1 US server to be night, and another to be day.
    This may be something they are still tweaking, but as of right now it looks like the "shifting" of in-game time keeps it relatively loyal to real time.
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    Numerous edits for formatting.
    Last edited by Genghis Pawn; Jan 2, 2024 @ 7:28am
    The_K00lDude Oct 10, 2021 @ 12:51am 
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)
    Last edited by The_K00lDude; Oct 10, 2021 @ 12:53am
    SOREN Oct 10, 2021 @ 1:38am 
    Originally posted by The_K00lDude:
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)

    If things like that happen and you found it really running your experience, don't hesitate to send it with the feedback tool.
    Depending of the community opinion and devs goal it could change in the future.
    (This topic is a big debate on discord time to times. X) )
    MaTheMeatloaf! Oct 10, 2021 @ 3:15am 
    Originally posted by SOREN:
    Originally posted by The_K00lDude:
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)

    If things like that happen and you found it really running your experience, don't hesitate to send it with the feedback tool.
    Depending of the community opinion and devs goal it could change in the future.
    (This topic is a big debate on discord time to times. X) )
    As a new player I for one love having having daylight tied to real time this is 1 of the things that made animal crossing and even MM o's like vanilla World of Warcraft so immersive.. Really hope it doesn't change
    Genghis Pawn Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:07am 
    2024 EDIT
      Jan 2 2024: This thread has just been necro'd. Everything I wrote below about Game Time back in early early EA was confusion. The devs want every server in a region to be locked to the same time. They forced this change. You will not be able to log into different servers in your region and find different times. That's how it worked at launch, but they regarded it as a "bug" and "fixed" it.
    In-Game Time Report round #2

      US Servers, I started at ~6:00am/06:00 US west coast, or ~9:00am/09:00 US east coast.
      The names of individual servers change often, as you can see. In-game times were:
      • Server 1: "Foundation Ridge" -- 06:45 (Dawn)
      • Server 2: "Iro" -- 12:26 (Day)
      • Server 3: "Western Verve Junction" -- 12:40 (Day)
      • Server 4: "The Hungry Voice" -- 03:45 (Night)
      • Server 5: "Siram Ferry" -- 12:50 (Day)
      • Server 6: "Sinter Shore" -- 12:52 (Day)
      • Server 7: "Moon King's Forest" -- 12:58 (Day)
      Variance of up to 9 in-game hours across all servers, making it possible to access Night, Dawn, and Day.

    So, seems like it is fluid, but might help allay some of your worries, K00lDude:

    Originally posted by The_K00lDude:
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)
    It's a little fiddly, but even if you play at the same time (IRL night), you should be able to see in-game morning or afternoon, if the stars align. And as Soren notes, I'm sure they're open to feedback on this.

    (Also, you can still progress even if you are limited to smaller windows of game-time. It's not like you can only level up during the day ;) )
    Last edited by Genghis Pawn; Jan 2, 2024 @ 7:27am
    going to send some feedback through the form in-game, but i will also express here my displeasure with a beholden-to-real-time world speed and impossible to determine server timings which means i have to hop around hoping to find a server i can join that will have daytime accessible if any can be found at all. the player should never have to jump through hoops or have to change their life schedule to be able to experience things. as it is, i would likely be only seeing dusk and night time scenarios, unless i apparently hop servers and get lucky. then what about trying to coordinate with my friends? its a very messy system that's a huge turn off for me.

    i tried connecting to several servers after my first one (which started during the daytime!) booted me. every remaining server was either at dusk or completely night time. the world had completely changed and i suddenly found myself in a far more dangerous and difficult situation with less of the world available to me. that doesn't feel good.

    the game should be on a much more compressed time cycle, with several night/day phases per real-time day with plenty of opportunity for anyone on any kind of schedule to reliably be able to see the world during a time of day they ordinarily wouldn't be able to while the game is tied to real-world time.
    Trin Oct 10, 2021 @ 5:06pm 
    This really puts a damper on my enjoyment of the game. I really don't enjoy night time in games but as it stands that's about all I'll get to experience in this game due to the times I can actually play. Kind of a huge letdown, and really makes me question if I'll even pick up the game at this point.

    Every server I've tried has been night, so even if there are occasional variations in server time, it seems I'll often still be stuck with night my entire play session. Which not only is that straining to my eyes, it is also perpetual game mechanic disadvantage I'll be stuck with. Sure I might be able to progress, but in a much less fun environment than anyone who gets to play at other times of day.

    I left feedback about it using the feedback feature, but until it actually changes, I think i might be out sadly. I was really looking forward to this game too :\
    Last edited by Trin; Oct 10, 2021 @ 5:08pm
    Genghis Pawn Oct 10, 2021 @ 5:10pm 
    2024 EDIT
      Jan 2 2024: This thread has just been necro'd. Everything I wrote below about Game Time back in early early EA was confusion. The devs want every server in a region to be locked to the same time. They forced this change. You will not be able to log into different servers in your region and find different times. That's how it worked at launch, but they regarded it as a "bug" and "fixed" it.
    Just a reminder that, from the info reported earlier in this thread, it *is* possible to find a server that isn't in night, even if you're playing at (real world) night. All the servers are slammed right now, but as server load evens out, it won't be so onerous to switch servers.

    This doesn't address all the worries, but I think fair criticism should start with the facts.
    Last edited by Genghis Pawn; Jan 2, 2024 @ 7:27am
    Zeth Oct 10, 2021 @ 5:12pm 
    I was excited to play today because I get daytime! And then I found out it's already night time at 2pm my time? I like the idea but half the servers need to be night and half need to be day I think.
    MaTheMeatloaf! Oct 10, 2021 @ 5:36pm 
    I never understood the "gamer" who gets upset because they would be missing out on a time of day.

    2005 world of warcraft, I worked a job with very rigid hours of 10-8 so i every time i played after work for a hour or two i always saw the game at night, but that day off during the week, or that Christmas and Thanksgiving i was off that i got to play ingame during the day made it all the more special and unique. The participation trophy generation ruins everything /sigh
    Zeth Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:03pm 
    Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
    I never understood the "gamer" who gets upset because they would be missing out on a time of day.

    2005 world of warcraft, I worked a job with very rigid hours of 10-8 so i every time i played after work for a hour or two i always saw the game at night, but that day off during the week, or that Christmas and Thanksgiving i was off that i got to play ingame during the day made it all the more special and unique. The participation trophy generation ruins everything /sigh

    I didn't know half the activities in WOW were day or night locked and I missed out on tons. huh who would have guessed.

    Nobody wants a participation trophy. Some people want to actually participate.
    Last edited by Zeth; Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:09pm
    MaTheMeatloaf! Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:06pm 
    Originally posted by Zeth:
    Originally posted by MaTheMeatloaf!:
    I never understood the "gamer" who gets upset because they would be missing out on a time of day.

    2005 world of warcraft, I worked a job with very rigid hours of 10-8 so i every time i played after work for a hour or two i always saw the game at night, but that day off during the week, or that Christmas and Thanksgiving i was off that i got to play ingame during the day made it all the more special and unique. The participation trophy generation ruins everything /sigh

    I didn't know half the activities in WOW were day or night locked and I missed out on tons. huh who would have guessed.
    Just play the game and stop trying to unlock everything in the fist 5 days, trust me playing on your off day or holiday will make it all the more special, stop trying to power level and rush , take it easy young fella, savor the moment and live!
    Last edited by MaTheMeatloaf!; Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:06pm
    Genghis Pawn Oct 10, 2021 @ 6:35pm 
    2024 EDIT
      Jan 2 2024: This thread has just been necro'd. Everything I wrote below about Game Time back in early early EA was confusion. The devs want every server in a region to be locked to the same time. They forced this change. You will not be able to log into different servers in your region and find different times. That's how it worked at launch, but they regarded it as a "bug" and "fixed" it.
    Don't get me wrong: there's a lot of fair criticism to be made about the night/day cycle. For someone who can only play regularly in (IRL) evenings, I don't think it's enough to say it'll feel "special" if they get a rare chance to play during the day. And we don't need to have any debate about who counts as a "real gamer."

    Just a few examples to illustrate why this is worthy of critique:
    1. As noted above, night applies a mildly harmful effect on your character, and night is intended to be a little more dangerous. That's (potentially) a bummer if you're almost always playing at night (although it's not like you'll be murdered instantly if you play at night)
    2. Or, from the other side: It's mentioned in that same Fireside Chat video(<~new timestamp) that there's a "Night Market" that's only available on a specific day, in the evening. That's a (potential) bummer if you don't ever get a chance to play on that day in the evening (although it's not like you can't go shop other places on other days/times).
    But,
    Again,

    The plan already, as sketched out in that same Fireside video, is that even though the in-game Day/Night cycle is loosely linked to real-world Day/Night cycle, still, it's going to be possible for everyone to play at any time. I'll just type out the quote from that first link I posted to the Fireside chat so that there's no ambiguity:
    Originally posted by M&D:
    Q:How long are the day and night cycles in game, are day lengths dependent on the day in the week it is or its somewhat random, are day/night lengths affected by seasons, and will there be a calendar?"
    A: This is something that has changed a lot. We used to have, like "the night should only be this amount long, because it's dangerous." But, we decided to go with a Gregorian Calendar, so every weekday [in-game] will connect with [real-]worldly weekdays, and the same with the time. We will shift it a bit, though, so that everyone who happens to work in the mornings and never can play the night -- I'm not sure whether [in-game] night might actually begin at 8 or 7 or something -- It's going to be slightly skewed so that, no matter what lifestyle you live, and if you have a job or you're a student, you'll still be able to catch day and night. But it will match up [roughly] with the real world.
    ^This is the latest word we have on the intended plan for Day/Night cycles. I think it accommodates the views of everyone posting in this thread, if M&D can implement it successfully. If you don't think it feels right just yet then, (1) have a little patience to see how things shape up as servers get sorted, but (2) by all means, provide feedback liberally to the devs to help them get to where they've already said they want to go.
    Last edited by Genghis Pawn; Jan 2, 2024 @ 7:27am
    The_K00lDude Oct 11, 2021 @ 1:54am 
    Originally posted by Genghis Pawn:
    In-Game Time Report round #2

      US Servers, I started at ~6:00am/06:00 US west coast, or ~9:00am/09:00 US east coast.
      The names of individual servers change often, as you can see. In-game times were:
      • Server 1: "Foundation Ridge" -- 06:45 (Dawn)
      • Server 2: "Iro" -- 12:26 (Day)
      • Server 3: "Western Verve Junction" -- 12:40 (Day)
      • Server 4: "The Hungry Voice" -- 03:45 (Night)
      • Server 5: "Siram Ferry" -- 12:50 (Day)
      • Server 6: "Sinter Shore" -- 12:52 (Day)
      • Server 7: "Moon King's Forest" -- 12:58 (Day)
      Variance of up to 9 in-game hours across all servers, making it possible to access Night, Dawn, and Day.

    So, seems like it is fluid, but might help allay some of your worries, K00lDude:

    Originally posted by The_K00lDude:
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)
    It's a little fiddly, but even if you play at the same time (IRL night), you should be able to see in-game morning or afternoon, if the stars align. And as Soren notes, I'm sure they're open to feedback on this.

    (Also, you can still progress even if you are limited to smaller windows of game-time. It's not like you can only level up during the day ;) )

    Now that seems alot more varied. Good to know there are servers of alot more varying times. Guess server 4 would be my home. Though more servers with even more varying times, would be nice.

    One question though, do you need to create a new char per server. Or can your char join any server each time you login?
    Last edited by The_K00lDude; Oct 11, 2021 @ 1:58am
    The_K00lDude Oct 11, 2021 @ 2:06am 
    Originally posted by SOREN:
    Originally posted by The_K00lDude:
    OOf this a is a bit of a downer for me. Usually I play late and around the same time. Guess that means I'll never see the games morning or afternoon. If night is as bad to explore as stated above, then I guess I'll never progress :/

    Sure there a time differenc between servers, but they are still all (night)

    If things like that happen and you found it really running your experience, don't hesitate to send it with the feedback tool.
    Depending of the community opinion and devs goal it could change in the future.
    (This topic is a big debate on discord time to times. X) )

    Thanks I will do once I can get access. I'll give it a try as is first, but my guess is I'll run into problems. Especially after reading the other posts on this thread. Seems it's hard to even judge what the server times are, before joining.
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