Banuk Culling Bow missing fire stat for fire arrows?

[MrNick7373]

the Banuk Culling Bow doesn't show the fire stat for the fire arrows, but does fire damage. is this a display mistake?
Banuk Culling Bow
other hunting bow

[cswiger]

No. It means that you can shoot fire arrows with the Banuk Culling Bow, but they do minor tear damage instead of fire damage. So use that bow for tear damage, not for fire damage.

Source: https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Variant_Hunter_Bows

[MrNick7373]

Originally posted by cswiger:

No. It means that you can shoot fire arrows with the Banuk Culling Bow, but they do minor tear damage instead of fire damage. So use that bow for tear damage, not for fire damage.

but fire arrows shot with that bow do light enemies on fire. even better than the other bow actually.
(and the tear stat is not that great as a trade of)

[cswiger]

Oh, I suppose that fire arrows still have their DoT. But you aren't getting any bonus fire damage from the bow or from mods, so if you want to do fire damage, then a normal hunter bow or a striker hunter bow will work better.

You should notice the difference now, but it ought to be even more obvious if you used mods which improve elemental attacks.

[MrNick7373]

Originally posted by cswiger:

Oh, I suppose that fire arrows still have their DoT. But you aren't getting any bonus fire damage from the bow or from mods, so if you want to do fire damage, then a normal hunter bow or a striker hunter bow will work better.

but I compared both bows in the field and the one without fire stat ignited the mob much faster than the normal one :D

[MrNick7373]

additionally under Ammo[horizon.fandom.com] the fire severity is n/a and not none

[cswiger]

Originally posted by MrNick7373:

additionally under Ammo[horizon.fandom.com] the fire severity is n/a and not none

Yes: "not applicable" means the bow doesn't help fire arrows.

[Ali@n]

I've made several trials on a weak machine (broadhead) in UH mode, with the different hunter bows in their rare versions (and without any modification):

- Carja Hunter Bow
- Carja Mighty Bow
- Nora Longshot Bow
- Banuk Culling Bow

All of them but the Banuk Culling Bow need 6 fire arrows to enable the fire status fully built-up. The Banuk Culling Bow only needs 3 fire arrows to do the same.
It's pretty normal for the 3 first bows as they have a 13 Fire Effect, so you need 6 arrows to meet the 75 fire severity threshold for this kind of machine.
According to me, the Banuk Culling Bow has an hidden stat : Fire Effect of 25 at least (but less than 38) so you can meet the 75 threshold with three fire arrows.

Lastly, I tried adding two blue fire modifications (for a total of 56% improvement) :
All of them but the Banuk Culling Bow need now 4 fire arrows to enable the fire status fully built-up (which is logical as the 13 Fire Effect is increased up to 20, as displayed, thanks to modifications).
The Banuk Culling Bow now only needs 2 fire arrows to do the same (still not show a Fire Effect stat, but it presumably became 39 with modifications if 25 initially).

So even if the Fire Stat is not shown for the Banuk Culling Bow, it does exist and apply (for something like 25, maybe 30, need more tests with modifications to be more accurate) and the idea that this bow is doing Tear damage instead of Fire is wrong.

NB: I used theorycraft from https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Damage to understand how Severity Threshold was working.

[PurposelyCryptic]

Late comment, I know, but I am currently replaying HZD, and both the Carja Hunting Bow and Carja Mighty Bow now show 25 fire effect in the inventory (I'm guessing the Nora Longshot Bow is the same, but I don't have that one atm to check).

So, it looks like they were all buffed to match the fire effect of the Banuk Culling Bow for the Remaster, and the original version of the game was patched to reflect that as well?

The Banuk Culling Bow STILL doesn't list any fire effect stat, so I can't be 100% sure whether they match exactly, but it would seem that they are a lot closer now.