Game crashing?

[A TIN OF JAR]

Hey all, I own the Epic version of this game, I got it free if I remember rightly.

The entire benchmark runs though fine saying I have an average FPS of 140 at the end, I'm playing at 1440p 144Hz and using ultra settings.

The game runs fine all through until the very beginning where she falls into the cave, after exploring the cave for a few minutes the game just crashes to desktop with no information about the crash.

My GPU temp is around 50c and the hotspot is in the high 60's.
My CPU temp is in the mid 50's.

5800X3D
RX 7800 XT (24.7.1 driver)
32GB DDR4 3600MHz
The game is installed on a 2TB Crucial P3 Plus M.2 drive.

Any ideas as to what could be the issue?.

[A TIN OF JAR]

Never mind, after some testing it turns out the game did not like the undervolt I had on my GPU.

I have had this GPU for around a year and been running an undervolt of 1060mV pretty much since the day I got the GPU, every stress test and bench marking program I ran to test for stability back then came back rock solid, I have played god know how many games in the year(ish) I have had this GPU without one single issue or crash yet this game crashes at 1060mV.

To get this game to run stable I have had to up my undervolt to 1090mV, very strange when you take into account games like Cyberpunk 2077, God of War, Escape from Tarkov, Hunt showdown, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Metro Exodus: Enhanced Edition, The Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, Sniper Elite 5 plus the god knows how many other games I have played over the past year all ran faultless at my original undervolt.

But yeah, issue fixed.

[dcy665]

A bit of math, that under volt will probably affect its timing with VRAM. HZD has a history of being very sensitive to adequate VRAM. Not having sufficient VRAM (8Gb min, 16Gb better) being the most common issue. If the under voltage effects just one clock tick on the VRAM interface, bad things will happen.

What do you possibly gain by running a GPU under recommended volts?

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by dcy665:

A bit of math, that under volt will probably affect its timing with VRAM. HZD has a history of being very sensitive to adequate VRAM. Not having sufficient VRAM (8Gb min, 16Gb better) being the most common issue. If the under voltage effects just one clock tick on the VRAM interface, bad things will happen.

I have never in my life heard or read anybody try to link the undervolting of a GPU to the VRAM of a GPU before? Undervolting targets core voltage and nothing else.

I have been PC gaming and building PC's for well over 20 years so I think I kind of know what I'm doing, I have already ran benchmarks to test both before and after undervolting and hitting the exact same GPU clock speeds and performance just 20c cooler, I really dont understand how you think undervolting can effect performance, worst case scenario would be artifacting or crashing as I experienced playing this game.

Originally posted by dcy665:

What do you possibly gain by running a GPU under recommended volts?

This kind of question really makes me question if you know anything about this topic!

How about less heat generated, quieter system, prolonged lifetime of the GPU, lower power consumption, less chance that the GPU will thermal throttle thus resulting in sustained higher boost clocks and potentially better, more stable performance.

Once you have taken the time to stress test an undervolt for stability there really are no downsides.

[dcy665]

Apparently you have led a life of little awareness or much experience beyond your own basement. I found it is simpler to obtain the card that has the capabilities you want and can afford to provide adequate power to. If that is your primary concern, I would have gone with a less expensive GPU that draws less power.

Besides our obvious dislike for each other, I have a query for you:
What is your CPU? Intel 13th or 14th gen are having crashing problems. You might check your motherboard maker to determine if your system is at risk. If it is, then Intel has microcode due within a month (via Arstechnica . com).

If you are providing less voltage then spec'd for everything I would doubt it would. However, upon reading the description of the actual in silicon error, and the possibility that it can damage the chip itself, I would suggest to err on the side of caution.

Normally here is where I would wish Good Luck

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by dcy665:

Besides our obvious dislike for each other

Hu? I dont dislike you? I dont know you, I was just correcting you as your first reply was just totally wrong.

Originally posted by dcy665:

What is your CPU? Intel 13th or 14th gen are having crashing problems. You might check your motherboard maker to determine if your system is at risk. If it is, then Intel has microcode due within a month (via Arstechnica . com).

My CPU is a 5800X3D, I did put this in my original post, this is also undervolted to a negative 30 on all cores, its also been vigorously stress tested for stability.

Anyway as I said the issue is fixed and the game is running great with ultra settings at 1440p 120 FPS, played for over 9 hours now without issue.

I just find it really strange how the games mentioned below plus many, many others over the past year I have played have ran faultless at a voltage of 1060mV, this is the only game that has crashed the whole time.

Originally posted by A TIN OF JAR:

games like Cyberpunk 2077, God of War, Escape from Tarkov, Hunt showdown, Kingdom Come: Deliverance, Metro Exodus: Enhanced Edition, The Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption 2, Sniper Elite 5

[Death Approaches]

I hate crap like that, even if we go with dcy's supposition that is messes with VRAM read/write timings, this is WAY BELOW what some user-level game code can even be aware of; overclocking/undervolting is a very common thing and even chip makers do it. The concept of 'binning' is not new, and the variances in mass production is why clocks and voltage regulators are set so conservatively in the first place.

glad you got it stable but I know it's going to bug the crap out of you because it makes no sense, so try to endure and not obsess too much... At least it's a fun and fairly unique approach to the adventure/shooter genre to have to bother making this tweak.

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

glad you got it stable but I know it's going to bug the crap out of you because it makes no sense, so try to endure and not obsess too much... At least it's a fun and fairly unique approach to the adventure/shooter genre to have to bother making this tweak.

Thanks, yeah its a really fun game so far. At the end of the day its clear that the last undervolt wasn't as stable as I though even though it ran fine for around a year, increasing the voltage that little bit more just makes it all the more stable so that's fine by me.

[skywalkerfish]

dyc was only trying to help, amazing how bad attitudes can be even on here. its a good game, lets enjoy it.

[A TIN OF JAR]

Originally posted by skywalkerfish:

dyc was only trying to help

Look I didn't mean to come across as having a bad attitude or rude but its not helping anybody by giving out completely false information, If somebody asked for help and I didn't know the answer I wouldn't just make something up.

And then to ask.

Originally posted by dcy665:

What do you possibly gain by running a GPU under recommended volts?

Clearly shows he has no idea about the topic in question.

I agree, it is a great game and I am enjoying it.

[Death Approaches]

no you didn't, and no I don't think dcy thinks you were either, he's confident enough in his knowledge to just smirk at the screen instead, but it's when you say stuff like "...makes me question if you know anything about this topic!" that makes it sound kind of bait-y and poking, so, you know, try not to do that. We're still glad you got it stable and working, and yeah this one does tax the s**t out of the hardware, even moreso than Cy77, which is freakin' incredible when you think about the technological differences in the engines...