So you are telling me these robots were in service for 16 years ... And no one worried

[Banana Fritter Muffin]

It bugs me a little..


A little detail the games give us that makes it even more scary. The Faro robots were in service for at least 16 years from I think 2048 to 2064 when the glitch happened. You are telling me in that time no one ever worried about these super AI driven machines of enormous size and firepower that they would never go rogue or stuff up.

There is one datapoint in HZD that tells of a robot crushing someone's clavicle (collar bone) and I always headcanoned it that this was a sort of hint of things to come that would become bigger and more troublesome. Then you get the incident with the pod of dolphins.

I mean it gave me a lot to think about while playing.

[dcy665]

Why would they worry?
The Earth was semi-trashed, Aloy's "mother" made significant progress cleaning things up. And the wars were more focused, with less civilian casualties. Fewer soldier deaths as well. So, bots killing bots. Next best thing to being in a sports stadium.

Now, consider the last decade; Faro was keeping a tight lid on data. Some were concerned, but he ignored them or had them transferred or fired. Hmmm, what multi-corporate company head would ever act like that even now? Oh. Yeah. Him. And quite a few others.

When the "glitch" happened he panicked, and called for help. To the one person he figured that was actually smarter than himself. And she was. She didn't sugar coat it. E.E. Extinction Event. Because he never really thought about the consequences of his demands.

Now, if you have read the logs of the various section heads in HZD itself, you surely know which one of them wrote Hades. And, there were red flags in nearly every paragraph related to him. He write Hades. And Hades went wacko because the guy who wrote him, thought he was invincible. Let me tell ya, Mother Nature, and Murphy hate people like him. They will always solve their overabundance of self love. And it will hurt.
That time, well, it hurt everyone and every living thing.

We have seen this scenario about a hundred times. We have movie franchises about it. We have graphic novels, comics, books, and TV series about the consequences. We know better to trust in computers absolutely. So, yes - both you and I would have been screaming about WTH are you thinking back at the beginning. Not that anyone here, or there would listen, but we would not have gone quietly into that dismal future.

Just a thought or two. That programmer though, grrr.

[Bobucles]

When wars stop being fought by people, evading the public eye is easy. What happened was a very natural evolution of murder machine, building up its autonomy in terms of power supply, resourcing and combat doctrine until it could fight wars entirely on its own. Surely things were on the up and up.

Don't go hating on Hades. If there was a proper one working during the ancient wars, it would have seen such a machine and nuked it on the spot. That was essentially its role, to find the precipice of the abyss and pull the plug before anyone fell over the edge.

[Hydra_360ci]

Um..it's been 1000 years.
Hades main purpose was to destroy all life as a fail safe to keep the machine killer Hive from acquiring biofuel, if they remained a threat during the planet's ressurrection (Project Zero Dawn). The Hades virus was endorsed by Elizabit, herself.... as a back up in case her project (the terriforming AI) went rogue.

BTW: the terriform machines didn't get bigger or more agressive until Aloy was born (She's 20). The why of everything is explained in the sequel.... so... play the sequel.


(I wouldn't really call the following a spoiler for the sequel... but you may want to stop reading anyways. Though, the following is pretty much presented in the opening movie of the sequel.)

Hades assended (a little before Aloy's birth) and saw the Terriforming AI as the main threat.

Apparently Hades achieved it's goal 3 times in those 1000 years... though the final time.. it just assumes it has succeded. First time was the monitoring of the destruction of all life to stop the killer swarm. Since the killer machines used biofuel/anything living as power. (really Hades didn't do anything and wasn't assended yet), second time resulted in the birth of Aloy, Third time... is the threat Aloy is fighing in the second game. In that the earth's ecosystem is collapsing and has about 3 months before it can't be reversed.

Or do you mean the hive itself?
They tried to sweep it all under the rug. Ted even knew it was a total disaster and switched production to human controlled weapons, instead of AI, as a means to fight the robots directly. The swarm started as small scale stuff in 3rd world countries... all stuff easily covered up by big corps. So, it took a while before the threat was leaked and knocking on everyones doorstep.

Anyways.... this story is basically the Matrix, except the hive robots were dumb in this game... and kill all living things for power instead of using them as batteries and having living things plugged into a virtual world, so they don't die out of pure depression.

[Banana Fritter Muffin]

But even in Faro's time they had the Horus in the old world and it was the same bloody size which makes no sense at all. How do you deploy THAT on land without massive collateral damage to everyone around you? The writing was good for the lore but they jumped the shark a bit with the Horus

[Basan™]

Originally posted by Banana Fritter Muffin:

But even in Faro's time they had the Horus in the old world and it was the same bloody size which makes no sense at all. How do you deploy THAT on land without massive collateral damage to everyone around you? The writing was good for the lore but they jumped the shark a bit with the Horus

They were war machines, ergo they didn't care how much damage it dealt to its surroundings when deployed / dropped. And on top of that, it had self-repairing capabillities, so... (as an alternative you can also blame my 'simplistic' analytic mindset).

[Bobucles]

Originally posted by Banana Fritter Muffin:

How do you deploy THAT on land without massive collateral damage to everyone around you?

That's the neat part-
you don't.

The Hades virus was endorsed by Elizabit, herself.... as a back up in case her project (the terriforming AI) went rogue.

There's more information on Hades if you look around. It was a failsafe, but everything it was capable of was a feature. Just as the other parts were made to do things right, Hades was there to make sure things couldn't go wrong.