Is there a respec?

[Shockwave]

Didn't see that some columns shift over for the prerequisites (this should be WAY more obvious, the lines are very dark) and took two skills thinking I'd be able to get the third skill in the row but I need the row next to it instead.

[Seamus]

No. You can get every skill eventually. Respec would be pointless.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by Seamus:

No. You can get every skill eventually. Respec would be pointless.

Other than correcting a mistake like the one above, for which it would be very useful. I think all games should give a respec even if it as a set level... lvl 10 would be a good spot in this game. Just to correct any mistakes you may have made when learning the game.

[Seamus]

Why? You can get EVERY skill.

[Basan™]

Well, I know that my case isn't exactly the common type because I specifically went exploring every corner of the map just before starting the last quest, but sometime even before doing that I've already had reached level 60 upon my 1st Normal Difficulty playthrough of Horizon Zero Dawn (HZD) and even had skill points to spare after getting all the skills that were available upon every different 4 skill trees that exist in there[horizon.fandom.com].
And even albeit a few of those spare skill points were given to me through quests / side quests.

Even if I preferred to 1st go for the Prowler to have more stealth capabillities while moving around; Forager skill tree to get the machines Lure, diminuishing their override times and the healing pouch to be more effective; Brave for their Concentration skill, which is very useful for shooting stuff discreetly from afar and also those Triple Shot notched arrows in a single shot; and only started with a point upon the Traveller skill tree because was suspecting to have Inventory space shortage early on and spent one upon Shardd Salvager.
But those were my preferences and since each plays and thinks differently, those (high) priorities of mine may be fully different from person to person.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by Seamus:

Why? You can get EVERY skill.

Because I have skills now I would have gotten way later and don't have the skills now I want because the prerequisites are not well marked.. not because of a choice that was made. I thought that was pretty clear.....

[Seamus]

So you wait slightly longer to get certain skills.

You're not locked out of anything, there's no reason to implement a respec.

[Death Approaches]

No respec. no undo. you have three options; deal with it, load an earlier save, or cheat... but leveling in this game is quite fast if you do side missions, cept for like the last 4 levels.

Why does everyone think they'll be accommodated for something intentional? You made a mistake not noticing a connecting line, who cares?! You're SUPPOSED TO make bad decisions, and be annoyed you have to wait, tried to strike when you should have dodged and got killed, not see a handhold and jumped to your death, got impatient and bought a 12,000 shard weapon for when you only had 12,450 then found out you could get a free one 20 minutes later, etc.

That's part of the fun, yes FUN, of discovery, that's gaming! Afraid to make mistakes and feeling regret at doing them, in a game?! That's absurd. And it leads people to read ahead on wikis, watch gameplay videos, start to plan things way down the road vs. just playing and figuring it out... in the end, ruin their own experience, they have someone else's.

Just laugh about it and move on. You're indoors, gaming, no one shot at you today, you have a nice computer and electricity and food and clean clothes... be amazed at your life sometimes. This is not something to complain about, you're supposed to enjoy it, all of it, even the mistakes. Please try to shift your perspective a little where it's funny and not frustrating.

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by Death Approaches:

You made a mistake not noticing a connecting line, who cares?! You're SUPPOSED TO make bad decisions,

Uh no. Sorry to disagree but I didn't make a mistake the devs did when they colored and grouped skills one way but they had prerequisites another. That's just straight up terrible game design. They could have easily color coded the skills together or grouped them together but they lined them up with some going straight down and some janking over. with very dull lines on a couple skills while most go straight down the column. That's just bad.

And no, you are not supposed to make mistakes like that. That's the entire point. Miss a dodge? sure that's skill. You tried to dodge, didn't make it. Explain to me how a person tried to learn how to cook and accidentally learns how sew? I means spent weeks in the kitchen slaving away with food and stoves but somehow came away a master sewer and unable to cook. That's just lunacy. Which again... is why a one time simple respec is a great thing to have in all games. It's not hard to do, it doesn't make anyone OP if it is early in the game. It doesn't harm the game in any way.

Why in the world would you NOT have it? Nobody has to use it. There is nothing wrong with my perspective. Just because you don't like be good at games doesn't mean the rest of us don't. I like to play a game where I know what's going on and do it well. When I play chess I don't accidentally move the bishop in a column and say "opps, ah well... hey opponent... just laugh at it and let it go". That's not how it works for me and there is nothing wrong with enjoying the precision of a game.

[Seamus]

Originally posted by Shockwave:

Why in the world would you NOT have it?

Because in a game where you can unlock literally every skill a respec is pointless.

Just do some more side content and unlock it.

You're making a big deal over nothing.

Edit: Also, your attempted chess analogy is hilariously bad.

[Basan™]

That's odd, I recall reading carefully each skil that might interest me and closely watching the lines linking the skills in the coloured skill tree and 'oddly' enough only made a bad choice early on with the Shard Salvager but had the patience to wait to level up and finally get the one that was more useful to me early on.

Although as an alternative the OP can also start over too and this time eventually pay more attention before picking. Decisions, decisions... all up to you.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Shockwave:

Originally posted by Seamus:

Why? You can get EVERY skill.

Because I have skills now I would have gotten way later and don't have the skills now I want because the prerequisites are not well marked.. not because of a choice that was made. I thought that was pretty clear.....

The prerequisities are pretty well marked, do you play in a dark room with a very dark monitor settings, or something? Those lines are clearly visible, some skills do fork up into the next area, but you have plenty of time to examine each and every skill. Don't make excuses for your own mistakes. If it means that much to you, then start a new game and be more careful about spending points and unlocking skills.

[Death Approaches]

it wasn't that bad of an analogy, i mean I get what he meant. I play. I mean I'm no 2500er but I'm no scrub, either. I can play the Millennium 1600 on 1600 and win... well I've won before, anyway! Twice! :-) Then again there's casuals who will argue they didn't take their finger off the piece, they were just moving their hand so they could "feel" how that move would go... uh huh. It's literally called the touchmove rule! You're moving THAT piece or you forfeit. Sorry Dad, these are the rules, do you want to learn to play chess properly or not?

Chess has no undo, either. You learn to be a better player, a ranked, rated player, by playing thousands of times, most of them winning, but if you're good it's more 50/50s and draws. You can't get a low rank, or any rank actually, til you beat 30 ranked players in tournament. None of them would try to take back a move, they'd own it, accidental touch or or not.

We all saw the connecting lines, why didn't you? You think your handicap makes you special? Wait, never mind. I withdraw the question, it's solely argumentative. And it's pointless to argue. Since this can only devolve from here... I'ma topple my king... you win.

[Seamus]

Big difference between an unintended move and moving a piece in a way objectively not allowed by the game.

The analogy is crap.

[Shockwave]

Well I'll exit here.. but I'll note there isn't a single reason posted why there shouldn't be an early game respec after a few levels... not a one. Lots of games do it, even games where you get every skill. No reason not to. Great quality of life and compensates for bad game design and/or lack of information (games notoriously have bad documentation these days), etc.

[Seamus]

You've still yet to provide an actual reason for it existing when you can just... go do some exploring/side quests to get xp to get more skill points.

It doesn't need to exist.