Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

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Grimalken Mar 19, 2024 @ 11:12pm
I Really Don't Like Alloy
I play it because it's a fun game, but Alloy is such a jerk. She's egotistical, always talking down to people in her sarcastic and condescending way. She's narcissistic, dismissive of anything anyone ever says. I really do not like having to play as her.
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dcy665 Mar 19, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
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Let me guess, you don't like any game with a female main character, right?

I don't know who raised you, and don't want to, but she's confident, and is driven to find her Mother. She isn't narcissistic, I am not convinced you know what that word means. Driven, confident people can be irritating if you're expecting women to always be cuddly, and giggle a lot. She ain't like that.

Your option I guess is go play Dark Souls Remastered. You can choose your gender there; Who is completely silent - bonus points!!
cswiger Mar 19, 2024 @ 11:22pm 
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Were you really expecting an outcast from a tribal society who is shunned from birth to be a Mary Sue who is extremely liked and likeable?

Aloy is allowed to be a grumpy outsider who thinks that while maybe individuals can be pretty smart, groups of people can be remarkably dumb. "Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Groups."

Your problem can be solved by playing something else.
Mr_Mosey Mar 20, 2024 @ 2:11am 
I remember when this game first came out on the PS4(?), there was quite a bit of the same kind of response as the op's from certain YouTubers & a few lesser-known news outlets that published articles with....shall we say... less-than-reasonable content....


Originally posted by cswiger:
Were you really expecting an outcast from a tribal society who is shunned from birth to be a Mary Sue who is extremely liked and likeable?

Well, if the OP has been watching & reading the same kind of content as his post indicates, it certainly seem so!!!

Both of what cswiger & dcy665 said about Aloy is spot on from what I've seen. I watched one YouTuber's play-through about 5 times after it came out on PS. Then I got the chance to play it for a few hours at a friend's house a few years later. Seen NO evidence of her being egotistical, condescending, a jerk, etc. In fact, if you pay attention to the first few cut scenes, (the ones where she's ~7 or 10 yrs old or so), she essentially starts out looking to have what amounts to a full family (in the case of their culture, a Mother). This is most obvious in the scene with the 3 other kids gathering berries & the mother-figure. Aloy tries to contribute to the group's efforts, in hopes to receive affection & a sense of belonging, only to be shunned. (Quite literally, as is said by the woman in that scene.)

And now that I'm actually talking about the subject, I just realized the topic of "missing/mothers" is *exactly* what Aloy & another character with a missing mother talked about in a dream I had a year or two ago....huh. Funny how the human aspect of that dream didn't carry over to my conscious mind until now...
scoreoff Mar 20, 2024 @ 2:15pm 
I platinumed the game when it came out on ps4 and yeah, she can be really annoying. I mean she was bullied most of the time when she was young, so she kinda hates everybody and it shows... But if she already bothers you in part 1, wait until you play the 2nd one xD (so much worse...)
8myers8 Mar 20, 2024 @ 2:28pm 
Alloy does not like you ...
Originally posted by Grimalken:
I play it because it's a fun game, but Alloy is such a jerk. She's egotistical, always talking down to people in her sarcastic and condescending way. She's narcissistic, dismissive of anything anyone ever says. I really do not like having to play as her.
But you Like Aloy right?
Basan™ Mar 20, 2024 @ 4:07pm 
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"She's egotistical, always talking down to people in her sarcastic and condescending way. She's narcissistic, dismissive of anything anyone ever says."
Don't worry, she doesn't like you either. :baa:

Quick fyi side note to the OP: I humbly suggest you to take a good look in the mirror before passing judgement onto others because usually a fair decent % of being a jerk is required to recognize another. :steamsalty:
Last edited by Basan™; Mar 20, 2024 @ 4:07pm
Grimalken Mar 20, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by dcy665:
Let me guess, you don't like any game with a female main character, right?

I don't know who raised you, and don't want to, but she's confident, and is driven to find her Mother. She isn't narcissistic, I am not convinced you know what that word means. Driven, confident people can be irritating if you're expecting women to always be cuddly, and giggle a lot. She ain't like that.

Your option I guess is go play Dark Souls Remastered. You can choose your gender there; Who is completely silent - bonus points!!
I often make a female character. It's not playing female characters that I don't like, I thought I was very clear, I do not like Aloy because she is a jerk who talks down to, and belittles every person she meets in the game.
Grimalken Mar 20, 2024 @ 4:38pm 
Originally posted by cswiger:
Were you really expecting an outcast from a tribal society who is shunned from birth to be a Mary Sue who is extremely liked and likeable?

Aloy is allowed to be a grumpy outsider who thinks that while maybe individuals can be pretty smart, groups of people can be remarkably dumb. "Never Underestimate The Power Of Stupid People In Large Groups."

Your problem can be solved by playing something else.
Aloy had every right to feel animosity for the people in her village who cast her out. But EVERYONE she meets, she insults, demeans, talks down to, thinks less of, insults and is dismissive of them. She is a jerk.
Last edited by Grimalken; Mar 20, 2024 @ 4:47pm
Night Mar 20, 2024 @ 5:08pm 
Originally posted by Grimalken:
I play it because it's a fun game, but Alloy is such a jerk. She's egotistical, always talking down to people in her sarcastic and condescending way. She's narcissistic, dismissive of anything anyone ever says. I really do not like having to play as her.

idk man, i was kinda skeptical at first because it seemed like there was some woke feminist bs going on, but honestly, most of the time shes fairly empathetic and is a typical "good guy" hero type whos traveling around helping everybody.
You've only played an hour or 2 and probably havent left the Nora lands yet. Theres another 30-40 hours of story telling, side quests and errands that helps with the character development
cswiger Mar 20, 2024 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by Grimalken:
Aloy had every right to feel animosity for the people in her village who cast her out. But EVERYONE she meets, she insults, demeans, talks down to, thinks less of, insults and is dismissive of them. She is a jerk.
Your fallacy is known as a false generalization.

Some people Aloy simply kills without any of the drama you mention. Other people, Aloy is nice to or has a complex rather than a one-dimensional relationship with.

PS: You should evaluate the meaning of the "All Allies Joined" achievement, which contradicts your claims.
Alpo Mar 20, 2024 @ 6:43pm 
I didn't read any minor quest lines, so in my point of view, she's just a psychokiller who kills for no reasons. From what I'm seeing, she will become a woke psychokiller when I'll play forbidden west.
NerV Mar 21, 2024 @ 1:11am 
Originally posted by Grimalken:
I play it because it's a fun game, but Alloy is such a jerk. She's egotistical, always talking down to people in her sarcastic and condescending way. She's narcissistic, dismissive of anything anyone ever says. I really do not like having to play as her.

Afraid you might not like the second one then as I felt they double downed on that narrative a little bit.
scoreoff Mar 21, 2024 @ 2:22am 
Not just a little bit. If you don't like her in part 1, you'll probably hate her in part 2 ;)
Cass Mar 21, 2024 @ 4:13am 
Aloy is my favourite video game protagonist.
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