Unlikable main character

[RageOfPerun]

Except for her looks Eloy seems like I would not want to have anything to do with her otherwise. She's super condescending to anyone she deems unworthy while being super patronizing to anybody she wants to help. Almost like she has some bipolar disorder. She is never in the middle, never .. "normal" always at either end of the emotional spectrum. 20h in I have almost no interest in the story because of this.. will keep playing though just for the graphics and gameplay - can not absolutely "bond" with the main character.

[Shellbie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9tLcD1r-6w

[RageOfPerun]

Cool down bro's

Both Stoicism which is Greek and Buddism which is Eastern aim for an non-emotional approach, though very few people actually can maintain an un-emotional state for long, its not human nature.

[Jimi]

Origineel geplaatst door RageOfPerun:

Cool down bro's

Both Stoicism which is Greek and Buddism which is Eastern aim for an non-emotional approach, though very few people actually can maintain an un-emotional state for long, its not human nature.

I think they both teach people not to be controlled by your emotions, To feel emotions but act out of reason nontheless, instead of letting your emotions take you over completely.
I know you probably mean the same but the way you wrote it makes it sound a bit like they teach you 'not to feel anything'.

In the meantime Aloy is really growing on me and I treasure our time together

[Dies Fourth]

Sadly theres " Karens " everywhere you go : {

[SniperGirl]

My theory is that a lot of men and some women don't like seeing a female in a role they feel can only be played by a male. Males are always the heros and females need males to support them and save them. And females should always be emotional where as males should never be. Look at the negative comments to reinforce my theory. If Aloy was a male would this thread even exist? And yes, there have been studies about my theory and it does exist in the real world.

[MJS WARLORD]

If you have skipped a lot of the long cut scenes you wont know why she has an attitude.
With regards to her having no emotion ,,,, well just wait and see what happens at the end.

[gaqo]

It's obvious who the smart ones are, they actually play the game and don't call her 'eloy'.
I like the idea that games can challenge stereotypes. And there's the real problem for the OP.

I play a number of current open world games and the protagonists are all similar. Some of HZD team worked on S of M and Talion is similar. But mostly I think they brought the combat system to HZD.

Heck Arthur in RD2 even has a morality meter which changes how people react to him. Even rogue biker Deek in DG is similar, takes a moral stance and helps out everyone(while moaning about it!).

But should we be expecting too much from a character in a game, they are merely our avatar. partially sketched out, with choices even in dialogue. And NPC's are pretty repetitive and boring in most games.

I enjoy this game, it seems even better graphically since update. And the more powerful, skilled and tooled up you make Aloy, the more fun it becomes. Stormbirds flee, Ha Ha finally.

[MJS WARLORD]

Some players are very hard to please i have even seen some posting saying ...... i dont want to play a fighting game as a little kid because its embarrassing..... LOL

All i can say is they cant of used it much because it does not come alive to after her training followed by a brilliant cut scene

[RageOfPerun]

Origineel geplaatst door SniperGirl:

My theory is that a lot of men and some women don't like seeing a female in a role they feel can only be played by a male. Males are always the heros and females need males to support them and save them. And females should always be emotional where as males should never be. Look at the negative comments to reinforce my theory. If Aloy was a male would this thread even exist? And yes, there have been studies about my theory and it does exist in the real world.

I have played almost every Tomb Raider game and Never though any less of Lara, she is a very well balanced female character in every way, which I cant say for Aloy. Does every female character need to be a copy of Lara? Certainly not, I also played a few other female led games and never though twice about them not being males.

Its only when a female character (like Aloy) tries to fit the shoes of a male character.. and fails miserably that I take exception.

[JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi]

Origineel geplaatst door RageOfPerun:

Its only when a female character (like Aloy) tries to fit the shoes of a male character.. and fails miserably that I take exception.

In over 100hrs playing this game I never felt she's trying to fit (or fill) anyone's shoes.

[Jimi]

Origineel geplaatst door JL::Jose-Juan Kenobi:

Origineel geplaatst door RageOfPerun:

Its only when a female character (like Aloy) tries to fit the shoes of a male character.. and fails miserably that I take exception.

In over 100hrs playing this game I never felt she's trying to fit (or fill) anyone's shoes.

Same here.

[RageOfPerun]

Well consider this.. Aloy is idk 17-19yo, she just got accepted into society and people just started talking to her and acknowledging her existence.. and within days/weeks she saves the world single-handedly solving problems nobody could solve before taking on armies of terrorists and taking on building sized killer machines.. sorry I misspoke shes not trying to fill the shoes of a man, shes trying to fill the shoes of a super-hero.

And that would be perfectly fine, there are plenty of male characters that do that.. IF if she and the game did not take this so seriously and try to make it look as if she wasnt a super-hero just a normal girl. Or if there was some explanation as to her "powers" ie. shes some genetically enginered human/machine hybrid etc. than I could buy her character.. I cant buy her as long as I am supposed to believe she is just human..

..she's Captain Marvel, Rey (sic.)Skywalker, Wonder Woman only that those characters had a reason to be overpowered Aloy does not.

[Dies Fourth]

Shes not overtrained, shes been trained groomed her entire life. Shes had extensive training, grown up in an environment where every decision was life or death.

Her only exposure were hostile people that shunned and degraded her except that 1 man. How could she NOT end up somewhat unemotional and have nerves of steel ?

She didnt go to sleep overs or have boyfreinds that broke her heart, she had a hostile world where she had to keep calm and make the correct decision w/o getting emotional.

1 role model your entire life and ofc you will be ALOT like them, she knows no other way to be but semi super human.

[gaqo]

Origineel geplaatst door RageOfPerun:

shes some genetically enginered human

I thought that's why she was called Aloy(alloy).

[RageOfPerun]

Well you are correct ofc I don't even care about her physical "powers" this is a video game after all.. what I have a problem believing is her "ability" to solve every problem, always make friends and defeat her enemies while never losing the "moral high ground" - as if the Universe was going out of her way, this oversimplification of reality is what makes the story and her character so un-relatable to me.

I have been through some though shi-t in my life and I know things dont always work out in your favor even if you try hard and mean well.. while Aloy takes every emotional and rational problem in stride, even almost instantly "forgetting" her father-figure(there is almost no mention of him later in the game), never showing the slightest sign of weakness or inner conflict(even to her self). I dont care how tough you are, you ARE going to have inner deamons.

This takes all the (real) emotions out of the game, I cant take anything seriously, and yes I have had man tears before while playing games, while in HZD I can smirk at best at the vain attempts to sell me "emotions" I know are just manufactured fantasies of liberally minded story writers having no clue how the real world works.