Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

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Optimizing Shaders everytime i start the game?
What kind of duck taped together, red neck BS is this? I have for the life of me never played a game that required you to wait 15-20 minutes to optimize the game---EVERYTIME you loaded it up. Don't get me wrong i like the game but, you might as well consider this a load time... this is, pretty unacceptable. A game in this day and age shouldn't have a half hour load time...

My first real complaint with the game... but its a pretty glaring issue, and no i'm not gonna let it do this in the background as everything i've read about it, seems to indicate this effects the games performance.

So it's not optional at all--- this needs to be a one time thing, not an everytime i start the game thing.
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Tasso Apr 7, 2021 @ 7:31pm 
Optimization is based off ur CPU power. My shaders take 2 min to optimize, on older processors it takes much longer. Alot of DX12 games require shader optimization after a driver update or hardware change. Games like call of duty etc...
Originally posted by Tasso:
Optimization is based off ur CPU power. My shaders take 2 min to optimize, on older processors it takes much longer. Alot of DX12 games require shader optimization after a driver update or hardware change. Games like call of duty etc...

This is a brand new Rig its not even a month old yet, so i wouldn't call it outdated hardware, it's a Gaming rig designed for gaming--- that said yes i get that, some games require you to do an optimization during the initial start up or set up, or yes after drivers have been installed.

What a game DOESN'T do is require you to do that every single time you start the game. That is either A: a bug that needs to be addressed, or B: Very bad decision by the devs, as it effectively makes the load times around 20 minutes.

Granted i don't have super top of the line hardware but it is an RTX card and a Ryzen processor i don't think i should have any issues with loading anything. Considering pretty much any other title i decide to load up, takes only a few seconds to load (including Cyberpunk on ultra) at best. So asking someone to wait 20 minutes for shaders is a pretty hard pill to swallow.

I've been PC gaming for over 20 years now, and i've never ever encountered a game that basically required you to sit and wait for shaders everytime you loaded it up. It should be a one time thing, not an everytime you start the game thing.

This will make the third time i've had to do this... honestly it's killing the entire experience for me.
Last edited by AzureTheGamerKobold; Apr 7, 2021 @ 7:38pm
GageMP5 Apr 7, 2021 @ 8:29pm 
You didn't see the "Skip shader bake" button?
hawkhill Apr 7, 2021 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Tasso:
Optimization is based off ur CPU power. My shaders take 2 min to optimize, on older processors it takes much longer. Alot of DX12 games require shader optimization after a driver update or hardware change. Games like call of duty etc...
My PC specs seemed to meet the recommended requirements on the store page. And I still get 10-15 minute wait every time I launch the game. This should be something that only happens when you change graphical settings. Not every single time.
And even 2 minutes before playing is a long wait! That's a big loading screen before the REAL loading screen!

GPU: Radeon RX 580 Series 8GB
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 8-core, 3200 Mhz, 16-thread
RAM: 16 GB
Windows 10
DDR4
Steve Apr 8, 2021 @ 3:42am 
Originally posted by Tasso:
Optimization is based off ur CPU power. My shaders take 2 min to optimize, on older processors it takes much longer. Alot of DX12 games require shader optimization after a driver update or hardware change. Games like call of duty etc...

Not sure what cpu you use, but I use an i7 8700k (which I doubt is considered a poor or old cpu) and it takes me like 15 minutes.
✪Septimus✪ Apr 8, 2021 @ 4:47pm 
Originally posted by Belle Delphine simp:
Not sure what cpu you use, but I use an i7 8700k (which I doubt is considered a poor or old cpu) and it takes me like 15 minutes.

The point is that this issue of having to repeatedly optimise shaders every the time the game starts up was supposed to have been addressed in a previous update and is still affecting many users. The type of CPU you are using shouldn't make a difference so long as it's within the recommended specs. Suggested workarounds such as running as administrator aren't working for me either. We would like a fix from the devs that actually works.
Last edited by ✪Septimus✪; Apr 8, 2021 @ 4:47pm
Zednix Apr 8, 2021 @ 5:07pm 
My r5 3600 takes 10-15 mins to do the compiling, but the game is still unplayable with some sort of texture bug.
Tasso Apr 8, 2021 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by Belle Delphine simp:
Originally posted by Tasso:
Optimization is based off ur CPU power. My shaders take 2 min to optimize, on older processors it takes much longer. Alot of DX12 games require shader optimization after a driver update or hardware change. Games like call of duty etc...

Not sure what cpu you use, but I use an i7 8700k (which I doubt is considered a poor or old cpu) and it takes me like 15 minutes.
I have a 10900K OC to 5.4GHZ, 20 threads running at 5.4GHZ vs 6 threads on 8700K running at ~4.5 :) about right
Dashing Mario Apr 8, 2021 @ 5:48pm 
I have a R3 3200G with a 5500 XT GPU and take 10-13 minutes, with that time I can go to the bathroom before star to play and the performance is awesome with ultra preset (31-40) fps
comatosedragon Apr 9, 2021 @ 1:21am 
I had this issue as well. The first few days I played the game, I had to wait 15 or so minutes for shader caching. (rtx2080, i79700k)

Then when I booted it up yesterday, It started normal, without waiting for shaders.
But after about 30 mins of gaming, the audio of the game stops working. I cant win for losing, lol.

Last edited by comatosedragon; Apr 9, 2021 @ 1:22am
Stellar Remnant Apr 9, 2021 @ 4:41am 
Yep, it optimizes every time I start it, too. Using an i7 6700k and it finishes the process in about 2 or 3 minutes.

I agree that it needing to do shaders every launch is stupid AF.
Moist Butt Apr 9, 2021 @ 9:57am 
Doesnt optimizing the shader just decrease the loading time? Dont see any reason to do it if you have a ssd.
Last edited by Moist Butt; Apr 9, 2021 @ 9:57am
Tasso Apr 9, 2021 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Moist Butt:
Doesnt optimizing the shader just decrease the loading time? Dont see any reason to do it if you have a ssd.
improved performance, and also removed potential stutters. Since not caching shaders means it will do it whilst playing the game.
Rehwyn Apr 9, 2021 @ 11:06am 
I had this issue a few times, but updating Security permissions (per the Guide on this topic) seemed to resolve my issue.

I'd also check to make sure your antivirus isn't blocking the game from creating the shader cache.
Last edited by Rehwyn; Apr 9, 2021 @ 11:11am
Sythalin Apr 9, 2021 @ 11:43am 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2412347342

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that was hard to find, almost as long as typing out a long winded crying post.

If it's taking you 15-20 minutes, that's a hardware problem on YOUR end and no amount of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ here is gonna magically fix it for you. Consider upgrading your $200 Wal-Mart computer.
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