Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

Horizon Zero Dawn™ Complete Edition

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Buon Tia 21 ABR 2021 a las 1:28
This game sucks and here is why
- Enemies have the Skyrim syndrome, they dodge arrows once you have already shot them, even when they don't know you are not detected yet
- Arrows go through enemies A LOT, hitboxes are absolutely terrible
- arrow to the head does not kill and yet enemies can kill you in a couple blows, it's like playing borderlands on steroids
- This is a stealth game, it gives you options but everything else SUCKS compared to stealth so if you don't like stealth good luck
- animations are absolutely terrible, they go through eachother and they are FAR from organic, sometimes if you're on a ledge and do an execution the execution animation plays while you are hanging mid-air
- "clear bandit camps" missions are just "kill everything with stealth in this exact order or you're doing it wrong", pretty much like playing a super-bad version of Hitman
- climbing towers to discover the map? AGAIN?
- there is an infinite number of instances where I felt the need to climb onto ledges but if they are not yellow DON'T YOU DARE TRYING
- fetch quests are fine if navigating the world is fun (see spiderman, gta, breath of the wild) but this is FAR from entertaining, I just jump from bonefire to bonefire to walk the least possible amount so I don't have to walk through this most boring landscape
- escort quests where the escort moves slower than you running but faster than you walking. And he stops. every. step. for no reason
- when you take down an enemy with stealth you take them down in one hit but with normal melee fight you hear the sound of metal (??). They don't have an animation where they actually try to parry or shield the hits and yet they take no damage for no reason
- enemies are absolute aimbots, you jump, slide, move like a snake and they land perfect hits
- what is the point of silent-striking big enemies if they then turn around make an ugly broken animation and one shot you?
- if you teleport with a full medicinal bag you will find yourself with an empty one

- loading times are insane even on ssd, even after compiling shaders (no, I don't care if it's fast on your machine, I have a 1TB NVME (samsung evo plus, read speed should be around 5GB/s)
- compiling shaders at every restart (seriously what is this, call of duty?)

Where's that guy making a list of why I'm wrong on every single point?
Última edición por Buon Tia; 21 ABR 2021 a las 1:29
Publicado originalmente por Abaddon I Knight Of Hell:
1. For me, I never noticed that, so if that is your experience with the game, I am sorry.
2. The Hitboxes are only terrible on very hard/ultra-hard and only on tiny targets (like eyes). Other than that, I never had trouble with the hitboxes.
3. Arrows to the head will kill the enemy, if you have enough damage on your bow and you are playing on very hard or lower (ultra-hard is an exception)
4. For me, and I personally love stealth games, HZD was never an option to go stealth. You have so many options with your gear, that playing stealth is not fun. So, I can for sure say, that the stealth option sucks compared to the other options.
5. I must agree, the animations are not that great, but more than enough to have fun with them.
6. The Bandit Camps are an easy go. Use the Slingshot and you will instantly kill every bandit in one shot or on ultra-hard in two shots. But I used the Bow and headshot/stealth option because that was more fun. But the second/third playthrough, I just ran through them with ease.
7. Climbing Towers (You mean the Tallneck?) was so much fun the first playthrough. Something new and interesting. It only got boring the next playthroughs, but that’s not the games’ fault.
8. For me, I never had that experience with “needing” to climb everything. But again, if that is something, that bothers you, that’s your point.
9. I liked the fetch quests. This game is all about farming. So on your way to that mission, you will farm everything on your way. So I had a lot of fun. Again, the next playthroughs, it got kind of boring, but as said, its not the games fault.
10. Escort quests are indeed something I didn’t like as well. But that is just me and my opinion of them, if people like them, okay then.
11. Stealth kill will kill only some enemies with one hit and that’s only because you learned that skill. Other than that, melee fighting is the same as bows and other weapons. You have to go through their defense (metal plates etc.)
12. With the Aimbot, I only noticed that on ultra-hard mode, that the enemy knew exactly where I go. So first I was kind of impressed. But you will soon (and fast) get a way around that, by moving and dodge in other ways. It adds a lot of difficulty to the game, so I liked it a lot.
13. Silent striking bigger enemies is just dumb in general. For bigger machines, you always want a distance to move and react. But to answer your question: So you will do a lot of damage to them, weaken them and get a good start at the fight. I never experienced that “one” shot animation on you, even on ultra hard
14. Full Medicinal Bag getting empty on teleport never happened to me and so it must be a bug on your side, sorry to hear that.
15. Loading times are a bit stretched. But I’m a relaxed person in general, so they didn’t bother me at all.
16. That shader thing I don’t understand too. So I never let them load completely and just played the game. Only the first few load screens where terrible loading screen. Rest was fine then

Im not the guy, that lists of, why every point of your list is wrong. If that is, how you felt the game is, then its fine and I acknowledge that. But I just wanted to tell another side to your points, so others see a different opinion on that list. Im not here to tell them, that everything you said is wrong. Im just here to tell them, what I experienced
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ΛΞL™⚡ 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:04 
Play something else and move on its that simple.
Buon Tia 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:10 
Publicado originalmente por ༺⚜️G92⚜️༻:
Play something else and move on its that simple.
A dear friend of mine gifted me the game, I want to play this to show him I appreciate it... so now I'm stuck with this mediocre far cry 3 clone
pega3 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:27 
Sounds to me like you're looking for reasons to hate the game and not to find the things you could love about it. Most of your complaints about the fighting mechanics indicate that you are playing on a difficulty level unsuitable for you. Why?
Switch it down, learn the possibilities the game offers and once you're good enough, crank the difficulty up again.

But then, since you don't like walking through the landscape, the game is probably completely lost on you (or you have a true potato pc, which would also explain the loading times). So yah, I agree with G92 - find something better to do with your time.
Buon Tia 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:38 
Publicado originalmente por pega3:
Sounds to me like you're looking for reasons to hate the game and not to find the things you could love about it. Most of your complaints about the fighting mechanics indicate that you are playing on a difficulty level unsuitable for you. Why?
Switch it down, learn the possibilities the game offers and once you're good enough, crank the difficulty up again.

But then, since you don't like walking through the landscape, the game is probably completely lost on you (or you have a true potato pc, which would also explain the loading times). So yah, I agree with G92 - find something better to do with your time.
As I said, I'm using a samsung NVME with about 5GB/s read speeds, it doesn't make a difference. Along with a 2070 and an i7 6700k (overclocked to 4,4Ghz), with 32GB ddr4 3200mhz ram. PC is definitely not a potato, I'm playing at 70-80fps at 1440p.

Not sure what "looking for reasons to hate the game" means, I play the game, don't enjoy it, post reasons of why I'm not enjoying it. I'd post a negative review and nver play it again, but as I said I have to play this because it's a gift and I don't want to be unappreciative.
Última edición por Buon Tia; 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:38
LP 21 ABR 2021 a las 2:43 
I kinda agree with what you said here. The game isn't perfect but it's fun and enjoyable enough for me to finish the main campaign, and try to keep this i mind: this is the first time guerilla trying something new instead of their usual FPS game.
pega3 21 ABR 2021 a las 3:19 
Publicado originalmente por Buon Tia:
Along with a 2070 and an i7 6700k [...] I'm playing at 70-80fps at 1440p.
Nothing impressive, but good enough to get the job done for sure. If you have to go through the full shader optimization each time, something is misconfigured on your system. Reading in the cache should not take longer than a minute or so.

Not sure what "looking for reasons to hate the game" means,
It's about your attitude. Glass half vs glass full.
You post a long list why the game sucks - for you. And then ask for a guy (what about girls?) to prove you wrong.
If you were trying to find ways to enjoy the game, you would have taken a constructive approach and not focused on the negative things. Or at least mention one thing you actually like.

But since you can't even enjoy the scenery of the game ("...walk through this most boring landscape"), I would guess this game is simply not for you. Which is nothing bad - if we all had the same taste, the world would be incredibly boring.
TheSuit 21 ABR 2021 a las 5:58 
Seems like your playing the game wrong.
You aren't used to telegraphed combat.

If you want to dodge attacks it requires perfect timing the higher the difficulty, because you don't dodge 2 hours ahead of the attack. Only dodge right after the windup of the attack peaks. Which does require some skill. You can watch videos of people playing on ultimate dodging some of the hardest bosses with ease.

They aren't just dodging they are timing their dodge with skill.

As for Bandit camps - you can kill enemies in any order. You don't even need to stealth it.
You got explosive traps for a reason.

Just place exploive trip wires everywhere and watch the camp explode.
As long as you silence the Alarm you can kill enemies how ever you want.

If you are not great at non stealth combat then lower the difficulty.
You can easily manage straight combat with traps. Trap path ways enemies will come to you with explosive trip wire and shock traps. This will kill \ disable enemies as they try to attack you.

Attacking from a vantage spot gives you an advantage to quickly give you distance between you and the target.

Using Tether to lockdown enemies makes it easier to shoot off parts.


This game does require you to learn a lot of mechanics to master it.
If you are struggling try a simpler game like Minecraft Dungeons.
Arthur 21 ABR 2021 a las 5:58 
As much as i love the game, I have to agree with most of the points listed, one thing I would add is the lack of Parrying, short dodge, blocking. The combat could've much better
The Tempted Man 21 ABR 2021 a las 6:14 
The games are supposed to be fun, this one is. Get a life.
ESOS 21 ABR 2021 a las 7:13 
You're complaining quite a lot for a guy who can't make games, it's not easy to make perfect game that suit everybody's expectation.
Also I'm disagree with you at some points of yours like

- Enemies have the Skyrim syndrome, they dodge arrows once you have already shot them, even when they don't know you are not detected yet
[That's not true I can hit one machine multiple times and they don't dodge the arrows]

- "clear bandit camps" missions are just "kill everything with stealth in this exact order or you're doing it wrong", pretty much like playing a super-bad version of Hitman
[Also this one you can clear it without being stealth, see people on youtube doing speedrun this game they just rush everything no time for stealth in speedrun]

- enemies are absolute aimbots, you jump, slide, move like a snake and they land perfect hits


- if you teleport with a full medicinal bag you will find yourself with an empty one
[never happen to me]

Maybe you should stick at playing Portal and ask your friend to stop gifting you any games since you only good at complaining than appreciating what the game developer has done.

This old game is far from "sucks" compared to the latest game Cyberpunk 2077, I can't imagine how long the list is gonna be when you first time play Cyberpunk 2077.
Última edición por ESOS; 21 ABR 2021 a las 7:16
F4TES 21 ABR 2021 a las 8:53 
You are SO wrong about this great game and you're almost certainly playing it wrong.
One of it's great features is how the different machines have differing weaknesses and various components that can be either destroyed or removed to make many enemies almost powerless.
Admittedly, the combat against humans is more tricky, but well doable if approached carefully. The dodge roll skill is almost OP and makes you very hard to even injure sometimes! Your aim must be pretty bad too, as I've just killed 3 long range archers with 2 headshots apiece, using the correct bow with the right arrows.
This game deserves a studied approach which pays off well and as for fast travelling constantly, what a waste of brilliant and beautiful game/world design.
Infected Shogun 21 ABR 2021 a las 8:59 
It is pretty generic.
Xianli 21 ABR 2021 a las 10:08 
The mere fact that you speak of "walk(ing) through this most boring landscape", when the scenery of this game has received universal acclaim even from those who object other aspects of it, speaks volumes of how seriously your complaining and whining deserve to be taken.
Última edición por Xianli; 22 ABR 2021 a las 1:22
Buon Tia 21 ABR 2021 a las 12:34 
Publicado originalmente por Xianli:
The mere fact that you speak of "walk(ing) through this most boring landscape", when the scenery of this game has received universal acclaim even from those who object other aspects of it, speaks volumes of how seriously your complaining and whining deserve to be taken with.
it's not much about how the aesthetics are, the game looks good. I'm talking about how EMPTY and insignificant the map is from activities that are nothing but repetitive chores, it's pretty much like working, brain activity is completely flat while you climb up yet another tower, conquer yet another bandit camp or whatever insignificant side quest you might be doing (PLEASE RETREIVE MY SPEAR! seriously? at least the teddy bear fetch quest in dead island was funny)
Seamus 21 ABR 2021 a las 13:16 
Gasp.

An open world game is an open world game?

ALERT THE MEDIA!
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