Nearly no Damage?

[FM Helldiver Radio]

I´m level 9 and just finished the 1. boss fight.

I don´t stand a chance against any robot as I don´t do much damage. If I don´t one hit them from behind I need a round 30 to 40 hits for anything but the really small ones. Nearly everything feels like a boss fight. Targeting body parts also don´t work as they don´t fall off and don´t extra damage or anything.

Is the game intended to work this way? Or is it me doing something wrong?

[Xaphnir]

Damage mods on your sharpshot bow will make a big difference

The other difference is getting a war bow and using frost arrows.

Getting higher tier bows also gives you more ammo options. Once you get the shadow hunter bow, that will give access to hardpoint arrows, which do a lot more than the hunter bow's basic arrows.

[JuFuggie]

Haha I guess he has enough help.

I think I am turning evil. I do feel abit like laughing at the thought that he's being flamed by bellowbacks and dying like I did alot of times.

I think it's schadenfreude.

https://i.imgur.com/3eQGu6m.png

In all seriousness though, I think everyone here has died alot to gain both the knowledge and weapon advantages that they did., so you're not the only one. You're gonna have to learn how to dodge, run and use potions and ur pouch while fighting.

Also, live armour switching in battle.

Melee resistance with Sawtooths and in general melee resistance.

With bellowbacks fire resistant armour, With stormbirds lightning resistance and so on.

I really hope you aren't a sympathy troll. If not you'd have wasted everyone's effort.

[Iorveth]

I hope this can give you some hints, helping you to fix your dmg issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2573572733
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2573572749

EDIT -> In short, when you wrote that using arrows, felt like throwing granite rocks that's, how it works, where you aim matters a lot and using the right type of arrows goes hand in hand with that; exposing a machine organic tissue/weakspot, by removing a metal plate it's one of the core mechanics and way to engage any combat scenario, that you should learn and get familiar with, as soon as possible.

[Warheadmeiky]

u need to level up and pimp your dlc bows....

[Eye of Newt]

Publicado originalmente por Gooru:

I use fire arrows. Set up a trap and lurk it in. But I´m not dealing enough damage. It jumps on me and then try to dodge but i stand no chance.

I am going to tell you once more:

*do not spam fire arrows once the status effect has been induced. You will WASTE THEM.*

Induce the status effect, and as the timer ticks down, use Hunter, Hardpoint, or Harvest Arrows to do damage to the machine,

[FM Helldiver Radio]

Publicado originalmente por Eye of Newt:

Publicado originalmente por Gooru:

I use fire arrows. Set up a trap and lurk it in. But I´m not dealing enough damage. It jumps on me and then try to dodge but i stand no chance.

I am going to tell you once more:

*do not spam fire arrows once the status effect has been induced. You will WASTE THEM.*

Induce the status effect, and as the timer ticks down, use Hunter, Hardpoint, or Harvest Arrows to do damage to the machine,

understood. Just use fire to ignite the meter till the white circle shows up. Then use normals (other?) arrows to case damage and watch it burn.

I´m still not causing much damage with the bow.
But I can kill sawtooths, bellowbacks, etc. with the spear in meele.

[gaqo]

You really have to learn about the robots(as Aloy often says). So what are they capable of in terms of reaching heights and how will they attack you. Use the environment, like high rocks for land animals that can't climb high. Plant a few blast traps to protect yourself.

Weaknesses> Hit their vital parts with sharp shot bow(modded) arrows. Once you get good you can take a part off with each hit. Move back from ledge if they fire at you.

I mostly use stealth, but like you say, if you have the high damage skill you can use your spear as a last resort.

Did everyone see that new cyberdog(Xiaomi). At least if they do replace all animals with cyber ones, we'll be ready for future post apocalypse.

Great game.

[Xaphnir]

Publicado originalmente por Warheadmeiky:

u need to level up and pimp your dlc bows....

Don't listen to this the DLC bows are garbage

[Seamus]

Publicado originalmente por Xaphnir:

Publicado originalmente por Warheadmeiky:

u need to level up and pimp your dlc bows....

Don't listen to this the DLC bows are garbage

Wow, you are just all manner of wrong.

The dlc bows are hands down the best weapons in the game.

[Xaphnir]

Publicado originalmente por Seamus:

Publicado originalmente por Xaphnir:

Don't listen to this the DLC bows are garbage

Wow, you are just all manner of wrong.

The dlc bows are hands down the best weapons in the game.

In terms of displayed stats, yes.

In terms of how they actually function in game, no.

Their problem is that their draw time is several times longer than regular bows, drastically reducing their damage output compared to what their stats indicate. You can choose to either use handling mods and get a bow that fires slightly slower and does less damage than shadow bows with damage mods, or you can use damage mods and do a lot more damage per shot with a greatly lower firing rate.

They are good for one thing: the first shot of the fight before you've been detected. Once you're detected, however, they're pretty much useless.

[Seamus]

Publicado originalmente por Xaphnir:

Publicado originalmente por Seamus:

Wow, you are just all manner of wrong.

The dlc bows are hands down the best weapons in the game.

In terms of displayed stats, yes.

In terms of how they actually function in game, no.

Their problem is that their draw time is several times longer than regular bows, drastically reducing their damage output compared to what their stats indicate. You can choose to either use handling mods and get a bow that fires slightly slower and does less damage than shadow bows with damage mods, or you can use damage mods and do a lot more damage per shot with a greatly lower firing rate.

They are good for one thing: the first shot of the fight before you've been detected. Once you're detected, however, they're pretty much useless.

This isn't a personal opinion thing.

They are by far the best weapons in the game.

Particularly the NG+ variants with four slots.

The damage increase for doing a full draw MASSIVELY outstrips the slight reduction in firing rate. Particularly on things like fire arrows, hard points and precision arrows.

Going by your achievements, you aren't far enough in the dlc to actually have unique mods yet, so your opinion on the matter isn't that informed. Shadow bows are fine for some stuff. I use the adept version with a combination of handling and damage mods for small game hunting, but, for anything else, nothing touches the banuk bows.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Publicado originalmente por Seamus:

Publicado originalmente por Xaphnir:

In terms of displayed stats, yes.

In terms of how they actually function in game, no.

Their problem is that their draw time is several times longer than regular bows, drastically reducing their damage output compared to what their stats indicate. You can choose to either use handling mods and get a bow that fires slightly slower and does less damage than shadow bows with damage mods, or you can use damage mods and do a lot more damage per shot with a greatly lower firing rate.

They are good for one thing: the first shot of the fight before you've been detected. Once you're detected, however, they're pretty much useless.

This isn't a personal opinion thing.

They are by far the best weapons in the game.

Particularly the NG+ variants with four slots.

The damage increase for doing a full draw MASSIVELY outstrips the slight reduction in firing rate. Particularly on things like fire arrows, hard points and precision arrows.

Going by your achievements, you aren't far enough in the dlc to actually have unique mods yet, so your opinion on the matter isn't that informed. Shadow bows are fine for some stuff. I use the adept version with a combination of handling and damage mods for small game hunting, but, for anything else, nothing touches the banuk bows.

I thought doing full draw only made the arrows more accurate, I didn't think it had anything to do with damage.

[Eye of Newt]

The Banuk weapoms can be good, but for their overdraw power to be helpful in a fight you are going to need to mod them heavily to boost the handling.

[Seamus]

Publicado originalmente por Demon of Razgriz:

Publicado originalmente por Seamus:

This isn't a personal opinion thing.

They are by far the best weapons in the game.

Particularly the NG+ variants with four slots.

The damage increase for doing a full draw MASSIVELY outstrips the slight reduction in firing rate. Particularly on things like fire arrows, hard points and precision arrows.

Going by your achievements, you aren't far enough in the dlc to actually have unique mods yet, so your opinion on the matter isn't that informed. Shadow bows are fine for some stuff. I use the adept version with a combination of handling and damage mods for small game hunting, but, for anything else, nothing touches the banuk bows.

I thought doing full draw only made the arrows more accurate, I didn't think it had anything to do with damage.

On normal weapons, yes. On banuk weapons, there's a huge damage bonus for doing a full draw.

[Xaphnir]

Publicado originalmente por Seamus:

The damage increase for doing a full draw MASSIVELY outstrips the slight reduction in firing rate. Particularly on things like fire arrows, hard points and precision arrows.

Going by your achievements, you aren't far enough in the dlc to actually have unique mods yet, so your opinion on the matter isn't that informed. Shadow bows are fine for some stuff. I use the adept version with a combination of handling and damage mods for small game hunting, but, for anything else, nothing touches the banuk bows.

I don't think you've actually used these weapons in practice.

Going by the sharpshot one, the draw time is not just a slight reduction in firing rate. The time to full draw is several times as long. If you use all handling mods, the bow still fires slower than a shadow sharpshot with no handling mods and a full draw does less damage than a shadow shaprshot with damage mods.

You're right that this isn't a personal opinion thing. The Banuk bows are objectively significantly worse than the shadow bows except for the first shot